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Might try AIDA, thanks.

Didn't catch the BSOD code, might set it so I have time to read it. Or can you find out what the code was after a reset?

Edit: Is it normal to see a 10C difference between hottest and coolest core on max temps after 2 hours of P95? Just bad intel IHS/TIM or possible bad seat/TIM by me?

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Why do you have so high cache voltage? 1.2 is much for 35x. You can bsod for to much voltage too. I've to disable all power savings to get my oc's stable.

I don't know, I just read that 1.2V is safe so thought I would max my chances of OC then reduce after... didn't know you could bsod from too much :O

I also read to keep cache ratio within 300MHz of your core clock, I don't know why though, but maybe I should try x41 cache and x44 core? Would you recommend around 1.10-1.15 cache voltage for x41 cache?

And I disabled all power saving anyway.

Also, is 10C difference between max core temps after 2 hours of P95 normal? Bad intel IHS/TIM or bad block mount/TIM by me?

Thanks otl, here is bluescreenview bug check code: 0x00000124 .... *googles*
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I don't know, I just read that 1.2V is safe so thought I would max my chances of OC then reduce after... didn't know you could bsod from too much :O

I also read to keep cache ratio within 300MHz of your core clock, I don't know why though, but maybe I should try x41 cache and x44 core? Would you recommend around 1.10-1.15 cache voltage for x41 cache?

And I disabled all power saving anyway.

Also, is 10C difference between max core temps after 2 hours of P95 normal? Bad intel IHS/TIM or bad block mount/TIM by me?

Did you actually read my guide?

Tl;DR version:

The 300mhz gap between uncore and core is complete and utter BS and debunked over and over until it's a dead horse carcass via tons of benchmarks reported from different users.

 

10c is normal.

 

No, you won't really bsod from 1.2v vring. No evidence stock @ 1.2v bsods, I've tested it myself.

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Did you actually read my guide?
Tl;DR version:
The 300mhz gap between uncore and core is complete and utter BS...

Ah okay, no I didn't completely read your guide, just tried to find the bits I still needed to know, obviously missed that part. My bad.
Quote:
10c is normal.
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No, you won't really bsod from 1.2v vring. No evidence stock @ 1.2v bsods, I've tested it myself.

Thanks.

BSOD points to hardware abstraction layer, something to do with CPU obviously but not sure what. I tried x44 twice, first time BSOD the instant I clicked the button to start the P95 blend test, second time a few seconds after test started, only difference was I changed Cache Voltage to 1.2 up from 1.15. Might just be coincidence.
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Ah okay, no I didn't completely read your guide, just tried to find the bits I still needed to know, obviously missed that part. My bad.

Thanks.

BSOD points to hardware abstraction layer, something to do with CPU obviously but not sure what. I tried x44 twice, first time BSOD the instant I clicked the button to start the P95 blend test, second time a few seconds after test started, only difference was I changed Cache Voltage to 1.2 up from 1.15. Might just be coincidence.

I think it's coincidence but if you can repeat this result over and over and I can find a similar result then we may have something.

 

What bsod code though?

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What bsod code though?

I'm not sure which one it is in this bsod viewer, or if it's actually showing the code, might be this: 0x00000124 ? I'm not very familiar with BSODs.

All the info:
0x00000124
00000000`00000000
fffffa80`07b3f028
00000000`bb800000
00000000`00000174
hal.dll
hal.dll+12a3b
Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL

Oh and this:
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+18c453 fffff800`02c68000 fffff800`0324e000 0x005e6000 0x51fb06cd 2/08/2013 12:09:33 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18229 (win7sp1_gdr.130801-1533) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    
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Remember I submitted a validation with 1.235 VID (1.248vcore)?

Well, I tried to be smart and dialed back the voltage to 1.225 for regular gaming load. The darn thing crashed AC3 (unoptimized GG), within 10 minutes. Then I put it to 1.230 VID (1.236 Vcore) put me stable, already 3hours in.
I was thinking of what to do next.

Wondering if raising the multiplier to 46x , or increasing the base clock to 102.5 for 4.6ghz is one and the same thing or it would produce different results?

Also I've got a 9-9-9-24-1T 1333Mhz 2Gb sticks of 4. Will OCing them to 1866 10+, 30+, 1.65+ have any benefit? Talking benchmark benefit, ignoring real-world for the time being.
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I'm not sure which one it is in this bsod viewer, or if it's actually showing the code, might be this: 0x00000124 ? I'm not very familiar with BSODs.

All the info:
0x00000124
00000000`00000000
fffffa80`07b3f028
00000000`bb800000
00000000`00000174
hal.dll
hal.dll+12a3b
Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL

Oh and this:
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+18c453 fffff800`02c68000 fffff800`0324e000 0x005e6000 0x51fb06cd 2/08/2013 12:09:33 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18229 (win7sp1_gdr.130801-1533) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

That's bsod 124. When we see that we typically think it's Vcore.

But take it with a grain of salt, those codes are not absolute.

 

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Remember I submitted a validation with 1.235 VID (1.248vcore)?

Well, I tried to be smart and dialed back the voltage to 1.225 for regular gaming load. The darn thing crashed AC3 (unoptimized GG), within 10 minutes. Then I put it to 1.230 VID (1.236 Vcore) put me stable, already 3hours in.
I was thinking of what to do next.

Wondering if raising the multiplier to 46x , or increasing the base clock to 102.5 for 4.6ghz is one and the same thing or it would produce different results?

Also I've got a 9-9-9-24-1T 1333Mhz 2Gb sticks of 4. Will OCing them to 1866 10+, 30+, 1.65+ have any benefit? Talking benchmark benefit, ignoring real-world for the time being.

If you increase base clock you can hit somewhere between 4.5/4.6ghz right? 

Once CPU is done overclocking, overclock ram until you start losing performance when you increase specs any further or you crash.

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If you increase base clock you can hit somewhere between 4.5/4.6ghz right? 
Once CPU is done overclocking, overclock ram until you start losing performance when you increase specs any further or you crash.

102.5 x 45 = 4612.5Mhz, so yes, increasing base clock will put me in 4.6ghz. But what I want to ask is whether its the same as putting my multiplier to 4.6Ghz?
Because 4.6ghz(using a multiplier of 46) @ 1.25V can POST, but instantly crashes on IBT.

Any program to 'measure' the ram performance?
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102.5 x 45 = 4612.5Mhz, so yes, increasing base clock will put me in 4.6ghz. But what I want to ask is whether its the same as putting my multiplier to 4.6Ghz?
Because 4.6ghz(using a multiplier of 46) @ 1.25V can POST, but instantly crashes on IBT.

Any program to 'measure' the ram performance?

Sisoft Sandra, Passmark, there was a ram only benchmark which I forgot the name of.

 

Few people bother to use alternate base clock. I can guess but it's better if you test it yourself.

Be our guinea pig! :thumbsups

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