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x43 still being stressed, 1hr of blend prime95 so far. no crashes/errors.

x44 boots into windows with the same settings as x43, but as soon as I hit start blend test on prime it bsods.

any settings you'd recommend tweaking to try for 4.4? don't really wana go over 80C though... so maybe no more vcore for me

e: not sure what to change now, maybe cpu input (vring)? up to 1.9? afaik that might be a bit more heat too. or maybe i will just call it a day and be happy with 4.3..

Run P95 with small fft at x43 for a couple of hours and see how you get on. (i'd actually recommend x264 1st as Wiz did, and it's a lot quicker). I'd also change your uncore to x33@1.15v for now.

What's your RAM set at?

Using x264 - If you aren't stable in x264 try upping vrin (input) by .01v at a time checking how far you get in x264. If by the time you get to circa 1.95vrin it's still not stable, or at a point when duration starts decreasing, drop vrin back down to 1.8v, increase vcore by .005v and repeat. Might work, might not, did for me.

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That's bsod 124. When we see that we typically think it's Vcore.
But take it with a grain of salt, those codes are not absolute.

Completely. I found the opposite with mine. Dropping uncore/ram to take them out of the equation, the only BSOD i got whilst doing core was 101. When core was solid the only BSOD i got was 124 when bringing up uncore. For me, 101 was vrin/vcore and 124 vrin/vring/sa/iod.
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I wanted 2.0 in single core frown.gif

bOXsQc0.jpg

Is that 4.6xxxx ghz?

No performance improvement? Wut?

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Run P95 with small fft at x43 for a couple of hours and see how you get on. (i'd actually recommend x264 1st as Wiz did, and it's a lot quicker). I'd also change your uncore to x33@1.15v for now.

What's your RAM set at?

Using x264 - If you aren't stable in x264 try upping vrin (input) by .01v at a time checking how far you get in x264. If by the time you get to circa 1.95vrin it's still not stable, or at a point when duration starts decreasing, drop vrin back down to 1.8v, increase vcore by .005v and repeat. Might work, might not, did for me.
Completely. I found the opposite with mine. Dropping uncore/ram to take them out of the equation, the only BSOD i got whilst doing core was 101. When core was solid the only BSOD i got was 124 when bringing up uncore. For me, 101 was vrin/vcore and 124 vrin/vring/sa/iod.

About the x264 testing... It's a fine way of figuring whether a new setting is giving you better or worse stability. That's how I knew I needed 2.05v Vccom for sure when I was trying to settle 4.6ghz. Stability went up between 1.85, 1.95, 2.05 for sure. But once you near stability but not quite, you have issues because x264 doesn't loop and it takes a long time to not only whittle out how long it takes to bsod on average (I do 5 runs per setting), I also have to manually loop the test...

 

We could do more test, where we purposefully set a setting with stable but too high Vcore, stable but too low vcore, do same with vring, vccin, see what happens.

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About the x264 testing... It's a fine way of figuring whether a new setting is giving you better or worse stability. That's how I knew I needed 2.05v Vccom for sure when I was trying to settle 4.6ghz. Stability went up between 1.85, 1.95, 2.05 for sure. But once you near stability but not quite, you have issues because x264 doesn't loop and it takes a long time to not only whittle out how long it takes to bsod on average (I do 5 runs per setting), I also have to manually loop the test...

We could do more test, where we purposefully set a setting with stable but too high Vcore, stable but too low vcore, do same with vring, vccin, see what happens.

Totally agree there, that's why i run XTU after x264. I use it to sort out that last bit of instability (stability being relative to what you want stability for!) and like x264, it's quite good with regards to time frame. Just like x264, you can use it to see what's helping stability and what's not. I usually end up having a folder with half a dozen screenshots of XTU stress starting with file names saved with settings i'm running/have changed. Using BSV i can get quite a good picture of what's going on.
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Totally agree there, that's why i run XTU after x264. I use it to sort out that last bit of instability (stability being relative to what you want stability for!) and like x264, it's quite good with regards to time frame. Just like x264, you can use it to see what's helping stability and what's not. I usually end up having a folder with half a dozen screenshots of XTU stress starting with file names saved with settings i'm running/have changed. Using BSV i can get quite a good picture of what's going on.

What is BSV?

And XTU counts as a synthetic right? I think it is.

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I've never worked with vbs, but I am working on looping it. biggrin.gif Just have to figure out some syntax errors.
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I've never worked with vbs, but I am working on looping it. biggrin.gif Just have to figure out some syntax errors.

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I'm looking for a way to make it loop. No luck yet. Hopefully somebody writes a script for me. You have to restart.

BTW, for x264, skip the first part. Only part 2 has the real stress.
Here you go, our x264 samurai http://pastebin.com/zhhQuUV3 (replace your batch_script.bat with it)

Pass 1 is essential, cuz its bitrate allocation, but after that you can run pass 2 indefinitely. So i made 1 run do 20 passes, check if it works.
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

What is BSV?
And XTU counts as a synthetic right? I think it is.

Sorry, BlueScreenViewer. I take a full screen snip at the start of XTU stress which captures the start time and use BSV log to determine crash time. I take note of duration every time it goes down. Works just the same as using the run/pass/% counter in x264.

I'm fairly certain XTU is a synthetic. XTU bench definitely uses AVX instuction set as per 27.9. I can run XTU bench without dropping any cores but still fail XTU stress. If any cores drop in Bench, Stress will fail every time.
Edited by Doug2507 - 10/18/13 at 12:17pm
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