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Adaptive mode
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there's your problem

I'd suggest ring @34x (default 35x has different behaivours on different boards, on gigabyte it sits at 40x under load) and maybe you need more vcore. Drop a core multi and drop vrin a bit (to like 1.8 with llc) and if stable, tighten voltages, then go back up
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Anyone know a good MEMORY guide - I got Primary timings and understand the unwritten rules and how it works, but when it comes to Secondary and Tertiary it becomes guesswork from me.
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there's your problem

I'd suggest ring @34x (default 35x has different behaivours on different boards, on gigabyte it sits at 40x under load) and maybe you need more vcore. Drop a core multi and drop vrin a bit (to like 1.8 with llc) and if stable, tighten voltages, then go back up

Thanks +rep, I missed that little detail, for some reason I thought I was running test without adaptive mode, are you suggesting to drop multi to 44 and lower Ring ratio to 34 also, along with Ring ratio Voltage?
    
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set ring to 34x and safe volts like 1.15, then clock core first

I'm not sure why i said to drop to 4.4ghz core. It made sense at the time. Guess i'll get some sleep, gl!

Oh, and it's good to get a picture of volts you can tighten to on a few different multipliers, to get to know CPU, and make sure you're not missing anything on clockspeeds. A lot of people use more volts than neccesary at first for higher clocks (especially compared to lower) like adding 0.2v for 200mhz when they only need to add 0.12 if they have the right vrin value etc. Also, there's a few random walls that can make things difficult and seem like you are miles off on volts when really the chip is just being weird at etc 4.6ghz+, so knowing what settings you can do different core multipliers on helps you for working around issues like that if you hit them, but you might just be able to clock straight up towards ~1.35vcore, 2.0vrin
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I think i fixed the freezing by upping the Vring.

Now i get Rounding Errors on Core 2.

Rounding should be SA or the Analog/Digital IO?

What are good values to start here?
At the moment those are.

SA : 0.014V
IO A : 0.001V
IO D: 0.001V

I tried Auto, but it does not work^^

Why are you overclocking core and uncore at the same time?
If you overclock core and it's stable and now move onto uncore and crash, you know 100% it's something to do with uncore.

 

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First real oc try after finishing my water loop.



Next step is to reduce vcore or try x47? tongue.gif

 

Grats, I'd try for x47, lol.

 

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Here are my results i guess x45 with 1.253v is not worth it since i get x44 with 1.19v


I think 4.5 for 1.25v is worth it. I'll chart whatever's on the picture though.

You are missing some info for the chart though.

 

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Prime tests AVX, AVX will be used more in the future and if you can't pass test that have it enabled how do you think your CPU will do in the future?

Read Cyro's explaination.

Simply using AVX as a computer user, the temps are in line with any regular application.

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x264 uses avx2 ^.^

As said before, there's a difference between using avx and hammering FPU as hard as possible

 

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Hey guys. I just picked up a 4670k about a week ago and have started playing around with overclocking today. The last chip I overclocked was an i7 950 so this a a little bit of a change for me. It's also my fist time using a board with UEFI rather than a standard BIOS. That's a huge change for me. The naming and terminology Asrock used thows me off a little too since I'm coming from an ASUS board. I read through the OP a couple times, taking a few notes, which helped greatly to get me started. I downloaded the Asrock A-Tuning utility to play around with overclocks inside Windows to get an idea of what I'm doing and I think I'm getting the hang of it now. So far I've only pushed to 4.2ghz with 1.2V with the max temp of any single core hitting 74 after 10 runs of IBT. I'm temporarily using a Corsair h55 with a 2150 Gentle Typhhon until I get my custom loop rebuilt. Just looking for some input and advice from the more seasoned Haswell overclockers. More specifically anyone that's using an Asrock Z87 Extreme3

Welcome to the Haswell familly, lol.

Mind showing me what teminology is tripping you up? I'll add it to my guide.

This is also my first build. So imagine the confusion. ;)

 

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CPU Core Ratio 45
Min CPU Cache Ratio 39
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CPU Bus Speed: DRAM speed ratio mode AUTO
Memory Frecuency 2133MHz
CPU Core Voltage 1.253125
CPU Cache Voltage 1.15
CPU System Agent Voltage AUTO
CPU Analog I/O Voltage 1.05
CPU Digital I/O Voltage 1.05
DRam Voltage 1.65

After 20 passes of x264 Benchmark



What voltages or settings should I play to reduce heat in my system?

Grats, I'll chart you shortly.

 

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anyone with same situation?

Run prime95 and Vcore goes up to 1.34V according to CPUZ, very hot max 95C on water, core 0 hottest and core 3 10C lower
Run x264 bench and Vcore only goes to 1.25v in CPUZ, about 8-10C lower same temp difference between cores 0 and 3

Core ratio x45
1.25V in BIOS
Ring ratio 35
Ring ratio 1.062
ram @ 1600 MHz
VCCIN 1.92
CPU SA Voltage 0.840
CPU IO Analog Voltage 1.008
Adaptive mode in both Ring and Core Voltages, C states enabled C7 and balanced mode in Windows.

both test crash after a while. any suggestions?

 

 

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Thanks +rep, I missed that little detail, for some reason I thought I was running test without adaptive mode, are you suggesting to drop multi to 44 and lower Ring ratio to 34 also, along with Ring ratio Voltage?

 :devil-smi

If you're still figuring out core overclock, yeah.


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Up to 1 MHz CPU throttle is normal or?
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BTW, little reminder...

It would make my life easier if when showing your results or submitting your results that you copy and paste the form on page 1. That way I never have to ask what your other settings are.

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Up to 1 MHz CPU throttle is normal or?

That's not even throttling. 

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If you already copyed 2 files to system32 folder and the 64bit version of x264 works, then you can delete this line from batch_script.bat and you won't see the errors anymore:
"call avisynth64_install_techarp.cmd"

Yeah, I've removed that and the uninstall part from the script, the errors were related to the copy and registry updates which makes sense - I can do that manually. While I'm changing this I also updated the x264 executable to latest I could find which was r2358 instead of r2200. Seems to have changed a fair bit, 1st run now goes to 127fps for me.

Here's a change-log I found.

http://x264.nl/x264/changelog.txt

Fair amount of updates, but I've no idea what 99% of them mean. I do see SSE3 and AVX2 mentioned up there vs. the earlier versions. I've also had to change Pass2 to start using mpg instead of mp4, again have no idea why mp4 stops working using this version but mpg works fine.

My thinking was that a newer version of x264 ensures Haswell is covered and also pushes it, but keeping it still within realistic limits unlike IBT, Prime etc.
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Need some help here. I dropped x46 down to 1.21v with sucess and didnt tried any lower. So up to x47, but cant make it stable no matter what. Best setting is 1,24vcore/1.91vrin that reached 84% at x264 run 1 pass 2. If i increase/decrease vcore it bsod earlier. If i increase/decrease vrin the same. If i add vring the same. If i add SA/IOA/IOD the same. Any thoughts on this?

EDIT: Sorry i forgot to mention it, always 124 error code.
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Need some help here. I dropped x46 down to 1.21v with sucess and didnt tried any lower. So up to x47, but cant make it stable no matter what. Best setting is 1,24vcore/1.91vrin that reached 84% at x264 run 1 pass 2. If i increase/decrease vcore it bsod earlier. If i increase/decrease vrin the same. If i add vring the same. If i add SA/IOA/IOD the same. Any thoughts on this?

What BSOD do you get? If thats 124, note the next time you bsod what type it is.

BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA800B730028
BCP3: 00000000BE000000
BCP4: 0000000000800400
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