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Whatever it's currently set at.thumb.gif

I had a Phanteks before custom loop and was really impressed with it. Also changed the fans on it for Thermalight 147's which are meant to be a touch quiter without too much loss in cfm. From what i've read a good air cooler like Phantecs/Noctua does just as well as a closed loop. Pretty sure there's lot's of info/comparisions available on the net!

If it's set at Auto is there an easy way to find out what it's running at? I haven't looked into it yet but I'm assuming I could get that from HWInfo or something right?

I'll take a look at some benchmarks. I think I'm gonna hold off on the cooler decision until I settle in more on the clock speed and voltage I'm gonna target.
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If it's set at Auto is there an easy way to find out what it's running at? I haven't looked into it yet but I'm assuming I could get that from HWInfo or something right?

I'll take a look at some benchmarks. I think I'm gonna hold off on the cooler decision until I settle in more on the clock speed and voltage I'm gonna target.

If you set what at auto?

If you mean Auto core voltage, then yes. Auto uncore voltage, I don't think so. Auto core or uncore multiplier, yes.

IIRC.

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If you set what at auto?
If you mean Auto core voltage, then yes. Auto uncore voltage, I don't think so. Auto core or uncore multiplier, yes.


IIRC.

I'm looking for my Auto Uncore voltage. Not sure what to start it at if I'm going to bump up the Uncore Multiplier and run into instability.
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I'm looking for my Auto Uncore voltage. Not sure what to start it at if I'm going to bump up the Uncore Multiplier and run into instability.

Well you shouldn't be doing uncore until you're done with core overclocking.

I'd just try hitting x40, 1.2-1.25v, that should get you working right off the bat. Yeah, your milliage may vary. I didn't even bother getting above 41 uncore. Don't want to up the voltage too much for no performance gain.

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Well you shouldn't be doing uncore until you're done with core overclocking.
I'd just try hitting x40, 1.2-1.25v, that should get you working right off the bat. Yeah, your milliage may vary. I didn't even bother getting above 41 uncore. Don't want to up the voltage too much for no performance gain.

I'm feeling the same way about the uncore speed. If I'm looking at a big temperature difference for upping it a bit, it's not worth the performance gain. About my core overclock though, where should I stop? I'm at 68C max at 4.6GHz from x264 but that doesn't stress my temps nearly as much as something like IBT. Should I be pushing my OC until my x264 test hits 85 or 90 while stable? What's a safe every day operating max temp?
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I'm feeling the same way about the uncore speed. If I'm looking at a big temperature difference for upping it a bit, it's not worth the performance gain. About my core overclock though, where should I stop? I'm at 68C max at 4.6GHz from x264 but that doesn't stress my temps nearly as much as something like IBT. Should I be pushing my OC until my x264 test hits 85 or 90 while stable? What's a safe every day operating max temp?

The uncore voltage increase will not up temps as much as core... That, or it simply doesn't because we don't push uncore voltage as hard out of fear. Or both. Either way, temps from uncore isn't *THAT* big of a deal but it's something. The issue is that the performance benefit is SOOOOOOOOOOO SMALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, even a slight increase in risk doesn't seem worth it at all.

 

For core overclock, you have to use your own discretion. We all have different tolerances to risk. My starting recommendation would be to hit for 85C on x264 or lower. On x264, NOT ibt, NOT linpack, but x264. The x264 is the worst case scenario of a real life workload, therefore whatever temp you get from x264, assume that as your actual normal PC use peak temperature. The reason why IBT and all those synthetics get a free pass up until 95C or even 100C for shorter periods of time is because those temps will only be hit on the stress test.

 

You can go 90C on x264 if you want. You probably know, but "safe 24/7 temp" is an estimate not a specific, scientific study.

Personal experience shows me it may be a moot point. Case in point: @ 4.4ghz, going to 4.5 took a bit more than 4.3 to 4.4 but still ok. 4.5 to 4.6 went from 1.35v (rock solid stable) to 1.42v (not fully stable) and no matter what I did I could not find a way to achieve the stability I'm looking for. I even went to 1.5v+! No dice. Granted now with x264 loop scripts I could go back and do some more tests but I'm too lazy right now to do that.

 

In other words, you may just hit a voltage wall where after that multiplier you'll be hard pressed to find stability no matter the voltage. In that case, thermal load isn't as big of a problem. Either way, there's only one way to find out.


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Personally, i'd take average on hottest core below 80 for x264 (though maybe a touch conservative), you can take that info from hwinfo easily
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Okie, 80-90 depending on how hardcore you want to be. :D

Then again, putting a voltage so your temp is 90 might not nessesarily mean you will hit a higher multiplier than if you settled for 80 max.

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Thanks for the advice guys. Can't wait to get home and get started again smile.gif.
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