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Personally I find the Intel Protection plan to be pointless for normal overclockers. The risk of CPU death is less than 10% and this is completely proven by the statistic so far. I know, death statistic would be for death in 3 month, death for 3 years might be higher but I still highly doubt it'll be over 10%.

Then again, how long is this plan? Can we swap if it dies after 5+ years? devil.gif  

I believe it is within the 3 year standard warranty. I'm glad I bought it. That means that my fried 4670k ends up in the wife's build at the end of the month. biggrin.gif Not out 220 bucks, just 25. Well worth it to me.
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Must one not hand over the old?

Yeah, you have to send of the old, broken chip.
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FIRST make sure you're actually thermally limited and not because it sounds like a good thing.
Ok, so my everday clock is x45 @ 1.32. Can handle Prime95 beta but it hits 97C after a while.
If I go to x46, it's stable but it can't handle Prime. I suppose the reason for delid is I want x47 as my everday clock. It means ~1.43 vcore and for that I need cooling. What do you think?
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Ok, so my everday clock is x45 @ 1.32. Can handle Prime95 beta but it hits 97C after a while.
If I go to x46, it's stable but it can't handle Prime. I suppose the reason for delid is I want x47 as my everday clock. It means ~1.43 vcore and for that I need cooling. What do you think?

I think if you're scared of delid, just try x264.

 

 

Forceman: I'll test that script soon. :thumb: 

 

 

Guide now updated with the delid/x264 info and the Intel Protection Plan.


Edited by Darkwizzie - 10/23/13 at 2:11am
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DW - I've been skimming the thread the past few days, but I finally got around to looking at the x264 bench loop issue. I know you've got a script that does 20 runs of Pass 2, but I whipped up something that asks for user input on how many times to run, and then runs Pass 1 once, followed by however many loops of Pass 2 you specify. I think it works (it did for me) although I got some weird error at the end that I couldn't figure out. Didn't seem to affect the test though. Check it out and see what you think.

Just unzip it to the x264 bench folder, and then run the bench_script_loop_user.bat instead of the normal file.

bench_script_loop_user.zip 3k .zip file

I got a change to test it. I chose 2 2nd passes. It worked as I set it: Pass 1, then pass 2 run 2 times.

However the resulting results document showed only one pass. But not a biggie IMO.

Another issue is the odd message in x264 bench after all is passed, before I hit 'show me document file':

 

The AVisynth uninstalled. How'd that get up there? I reran the test but it still runs. So I think the issue is cosmetic in nature but might confuse other people.

 

Great job Forceman, now this script can work for any amount of passes! w00t! :thumb: 

 

Guide updated once again.


Edited by Darkwizzie - 10/23/13 at 4:31am
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Has anyone done much testing with voltages other than core? I'm wondering how much of an impact uncore, system agent, digital io, and analog io voltages would have on my temps if I set them to something other than auto. Will I be able to run a lot cooler if I adjust them manually?
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i lowered uncore from 4.2GHz 1.2v to 4GHz 1.13v and my temps dropped 5/6ºc
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i lowered uncore from 4.2GHz 1.2v to 4GHz 1.13v and my temps dropped 5/6ºc

That's good to know, thank you for the information.

I do have one more question for everyone. What's the limit for stress testing? What temps are you comfortable with seeing during a very intense stress test (i.e. IBT)? Do you stop testing further if it goes over 90, 95? I'm curious to know what's safe and what isn't. I don't want to burn out my cpu early, but if I can test for a few hours at those temps without damage I'd like to know.
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That's good to know, thank you for the information.

I do have one more question for everyone. What's the limit for stress testing? What temps are you comfortable with seeing during a very intense stress test (i.e. IBT)? Do you stop testing further if it goes over 90, 95? I'm curious to know what's safe and what isn't. I don't want to burn out my cpu early, but if I can test for a few hours at those temps without damage I'd like to know.

 

 

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Has anyone done much testing with voltages other than core? I'm wondering how much of an impact uncore, system agent, digital io, and analog io voltages would have on my temps if I set them to something other than auto. Will I be able to run a lot cooler if I adjust them manually?

Most of your questions are already answered in the guide. For testing 90-95C. For normal operation best hit 80-90C at most. Running 100C for only a little bit won't hurt it, but I don't advise going to sleep for 8 hours while the CPU chugs 100C.

 

Uncore voltage ups temps but the effect is not that much, as Cygnus noted. Your #1 heater is still your Vcore for sure. Nobody really does SA/Io tweaks for the sake of temperature control, but rather as a last ditch attempt to make the CPU stable at a given speed. The offset range for those three voltages are low, once you step out it may be dangerous. So in terms of temps, I doubt it'll be anything worth noting.

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