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Originally Posted by Menphisto View Post

And is x264 a better stress test than prime ?

I already mentioned it in the guide... Synthetics are probably more stressful than nonsynthetics but nonsynthetics give realistic temps which in turn allows you to use the test while on a hard overclock without fear of throttling. Plus a 20 pass run verifies stability, personally don't see a reason to stress ram anymore after that.

 

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Stock CPU + 2400 MHz RAM = no boot

Your ram can't tolerate such speed.

 

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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post


Not all RAM can run fine @2400cas10 1.65v or whatever
It might catch a few things that prime doesn't, but it's certainly true the other way around and probably moreso. Prime is way harder on RAM if you test properly (high priority 6000-7000MB RAM custom blend with rounding and error checking) and probably on other stuff too, maybe uncore. For checking RAM stability, i'd prime at 4ghz core 3.4 uncore (can do at like 1.7vrin, 1.1 vcore 1.1 ring personally np for any stress) and then verify it still works at your max core clock after stability is sorted out there

x264 was more of an actual program that was tricky to stabilize on Haswell compared to some other stuff (that frustrated me when i started to OC) rather than an all inclusive stress test. I don't think there's a good way to do that on Haswell, maybe avx1 prime w/ 7000mb RAM custom blend rounding error checking etcetc for a pass of each fft lengh @ 15 mins each (like 10+ hours) and x264 among other stuff if you want to be hard on the OC

First, somebody give me evidence of an overclock that passes 20 passes of x264 and later bsods on a nonsynthetic workload, folding, chess, encoding included.

 

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On another note, I'm surprised to see so many people interested with high ram overclocks. What are you running that can notice a difference?

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Most are just interested for the corsair bf4 blog that needs more research done on it when the game's actually live.

Me, sc2 and epeen benches, i've not seen anyone else break 950 on cinebench r15 @4.6ghz. In terms of sc2, the gain from 1600 9-9-9-24 etc standard RAM to tight 2400 is notable, i need good benchmarks now that i can take them. I couldn't for several months because of a stuttering issue that i have fixed now, but a few niche cpu bound games you can get more from stepping from "meh" ram to high end settings than 100 or even 200mhz on cpu core can give you
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Starcraft 2 sounds like a hardware nightmare.

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Starcraft 2 sounds like a hardware nightmare.

It's very, very CPU bound and apparently RAM bound. Oh, and I'm pretty sure it only uses 3 cores. XD
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Well I still plan to play Oblivion and Enemy Territory with lots of bots, those are CPU bottlenecks, but with Haswell I can push it back to the point the FPS is no longer really an issue unless I go overboard with the AI.

 

But I still want more.

 

And chess is a neverending black hole for CPU computing power. I thought at first I would beat everybody with Haswell, but some dudes have like dual Xeons or something, some other guys have computer clusters.

 

YOU CAN NEVER WIN!!!

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Well I still plan to play Oblivion and Enemy Territory with lots of bots, those are CPU bottlenecks, but with Haswell I can push it back to the point the FPS is no longer really an issue unless I go overboard with the AI.

But I still want more.

And chess is a neverending black hole for CPU computing power. I thought at first I would beat everybody with Haswell, but some dudes have like dual Xeons or something, some other guys have computer clusters.

YOU CAN NEVER WIN!!!

GET QUAD XEONS!!!!!

Still keep this thread running, though. biggrin.gif

It's very important that you are here to repeat look at the OP, look at the OP, look at the OP.
Edited by jameyscott - 10/24/13 at 4:22pm
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The samsung low voltage sticks use samsung HYKO ICs. Although they were great price/performance at $40 for a 2 x 4gb kit, they weren't really high end, the same HYKO ICs on a full height PCB can clock considerably higher, they were used for quite a few 2400 & 2600Mhz kits.

This make me frown.gif

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$112 2x8GB 2133 1.5V 11-11-11-28
http://www.overclock.net/t/1436587/newegg-2x8gb-2133-1-5v-team-xtreem-112-free-shipping

Nice deal! But all gone. Best I found today was a pair of 8 Gig Snipers @ 2400 for $140 (today only).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231673
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This make me frown.gif
Nice deal! But all gone. Best I found today was a pair of 8 Gig Snipers @ 2400 for $140 (today only).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231673
Ive been watching ram for over a week. Those Snipers have been on sale for a while. They are 1.65V though, and I was looking for 1.5V.

The Teams just went on sale last night, and "sold out" fast. Which is a sign that newegg has plenty more, and are likely waiting for the 5% coupon to end before the magically get more at the sale price of $118.
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AFAIK, all the 2400 kits are above 1.5V. I hear you though, I'd rather keep it low too. IIRC, Intel said 1.5V for Sandy Bridge. Has that changed w/ Haswell?
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