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What's up guys,

Need some help here. I hit a sort of wall at 4.5 ghz with my ram running at 2400 mhz.

Here's what I've got now:

Mult 45x
Uncore 40x
vCore: 1.25v
RAM Frequency: 2400 mhz
RAM Voltage: 1.65v
Everything else is auto: VRIN, Uncore Voltage, etc.

When i go up to 46x, even when i raise vCore to 1.29v I'll crash. Any tips?

I had to go 1.385v to get into x46. You're still in normal territory. When you overclock your primary clock, you should manually sey uncore to stock and ram speed outside of XMP or any overclock. I need 1.25v for uncore at x41. This is done after I've reached my max core clock.

 

BTW, I just tried 1.47v for x47. Playing Crysis 3, computer locked up again. Odd, before all this higher voltage I used to just Bsod when there isn't enough voltage. I doubt that raising the ring bus voltage is enough to make me go from lock up within 15 minutes to stability after hours. I really can't go past 1.47v in thermals, this is on AIR... And I"m on adaptive, on chess it blows up to 1.5v or higher. Also not comfortable raising the Vccin to above 2.0 as I heard 2.2 killed a chip. I think I have to stay at x46. x47 is too much.

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What's up guys,

Need some help here. I hit a sort of wall at 4.5 ghz with my ram running at 2400 mhz.

Here's what I've got now:

Mult 45x
Uncore 40x
vCore: 1.25v
RAM Frequency: 2400 mhz
RAM Voltage: 1.65v
Everything else is auto: VRIN, Uncore Voltage, etc.

When i go up to 46x, even when i raise vCore to 1.29v I'll crash. Any tips?

I can tell you right off the bat that you'll need to raise your cache (Uncore) voltage if you want to keep it at 40x. For 40x I would raise it to 1.150-1.175V range, that is nice and safe. That should help to stabilize it a bit. When you say you crash, how long are we talking and in which stress test? 2 hours Prime/OCCT? Or a few runs of IBT? It might not hurt to bump up the core voltage a hair too and try a few runs to see if it is headed in the right direction.

I have the same issue with my 4.8 clock and it just wants more and more voltage. I think it's just a pipe dream. I only wanted it for benchmarking, but I want it to be stable. IMO every chip has its threshold multi that just won't stabilize regardless of the voltage. It just gets more and more difficult to stabilize anything over 4.6 on mine, and up to that every multi works with a predictable voltage. After 4.6 it jumps up from 1.223V to 1.280V for 4.7. So basically you might be past your sweet spot for 4.6, but it can't hurt to try a few tweaks.
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I feel 1.2v for ring bus voltage is perfectly safe and is a fine starting voltage. Just keep in mind the range is narrower compared to core voltage. 1.3v is considered quite a bit of voltage. I feel 1.35v or higher is unsafe. I personally am at 1.25 although I may elevate to 1.275 to try to nab 4.2 uncore.

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Here I'm at now

http://valid.canardpc.com/2885568

testing later
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I just noticed the highest overclock I have of a 4670k is 4.6ghz. I assume that's because people who can afford to stress and survive the temperatures can afford 4770k. I wanna be the one with 47 now lolol.
Thats probably true, yet i CAN do 4.7ghz at 1.32v - unlikely stable, can do half the linpack before my house burns down, and prime for a few hours ~4.(NEWEST PRIME WITH AVX BLEND) Smallftp would cause nuclear explosion. And you woyld probably taste the radiation! biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif So im not jumping into wild conclusions that i can do 4.7 at that voltage, but its been gaming "certified" :d Can do 4.7ghz cinebench run at 1.27-1.26
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I just noticed the highest overclock I have of a 4670k is 4.6ghz. I assume that's because people who can afford to stress and survive the temperatures can afford 4770k. I wanna be the one with 47 now lolol.

Donate me a better cooler and I'll get a higher overclock smile.gif
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Donate me a better cooler and I'll get a higher overclock smile.gif

I'll send you a solid styrofoam as the heatsink and butter as thermal grease! Yum!

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I'll send you a solid styrofoam as the heatsink and butter as thermal grease! Yum!

Well if you said mayonnaise then I might have believed you, but butter? C'mon man...
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About 124 bsods and vccin/vcore, I just did a quick little test to confirm (at least to myself) that adjusting vcore/vccin can indeed help with 124 errors.

I set everything in bios to stock.

Then I set core multi to 47, fixed mode.

Vcore to 1.300v, fixed mode.
Vccin still on auto, ran hyper pi, bsod 124

Set vccin to 1.800v.
Ran hyper pi, bsod

Set vccin to 1.810v, then 1.830v, then 1.85v
All bsod 124

Increased vcore to 1.305v
Vccin on auto, bsod
Vccin 1.810v, bsod
Vccin 1.860v, bsod

Increased vcore to 1.310v
Vccin on auto, bsod
Vccin 1.810v, bsod
Vccin 1.860v..... passed!

Ran hyper pi 3 times in a row, passed all 3 times.

So yeah, bsod 124 means adjusting vcore and/or vccin.

HWinfo reports that vccin went up to 1.872v and vcore (not vid) went up to 1.336v


Edit:

Setting uncore to 43x requires 1.175v to be stable for my chip. Anything lower than that the screen freezes when running hyper pi. No bsods, screen just freezes.
Setting uncore to 44x freezes even at 1.200v. Too afraid to go above that.
Edited by Threx - 8/10/13 at 6:32am
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About 124 bsods and vccin/vcore, I just did a quick little test to confirm (at least to myself) that adjusting vcore/vccin can indeed help with 124 errors.

I set everything in bios to stock.

Then I set core multi to 47, fixed mode.

Vcore to 1.300v, fixed mode.
Vccin still on auto, ran hyper pi, bsod 124

Set vccin to 1.800v.
Ran hyper pi, bsod

Set vccin to 1.810v, then 1.830v, then 1.85v
All bsod 124

Increased vcore to 1.305v
Vccin on auto, bsod
Vccin 1.810v, bsod
Vccin 1.860v, bsod

Increased vcore to 1.310v
Vccin on auto, bsod
Vccin 1.810v, bsod
Vccin 1.860v..... passed!

Ran hyper pi 3 times in a row, passed all 3 times.

So yeah, bsod 124 means adjusting vcore and/or vccin.

HWinfo reports that vccin went up to 1.872v and vcore (not vid) went up to 1.336v


Edit:

Setting uncore to 43x requires 1.175v to be stable for my chip. Anything lower than that the screen freezes when running hyper pi. No bsods, screen just freezes.
Setting uncore to 44x freezes even at 1.200v. Too afraid to go above that.

Yes looks like 0x124 is vcore or vrin. I never had 0x101 with haswell, always 0x124.
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