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I've been working on overclocking my 4770K, but seems like thermal issues are going to hold me back for the time being. I'm running a 42x multi at 1.210 vcore, 1.800 vccin, 38x uncore. EIST and C states are disabled until I get everything 100% stable. As of right now I'm running 85-90C with a Corsair H100, which seems a bit high to me for the freq and volts I'm running, maybe I used too much TIM, so I might try reseating and applying less, but I want to give the AS5 a chance to burn in first.

I'm sure delidding and using CLP as a TIM between the die and IHS would help immensely, but I just don't have the cahones to take a hammer to my 4770K, especially since I don't have the funds to replace it if things go wrong. I'm also concerned about the reports I've read of cracked dies down the road after delidding.

I don't mind building a custom loop (I plan to at some point), but I don't think it will help since I saw almost no reduction in temps going from my Hyper 212 to my H100...

Looking at this situation the first question that comes to mind is, what stress test are we talking about here? There is no way in hell you're throttling with 1.2-1.3v doing x264.

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Yeah, it's this thing  called luck. Some people need less some need more. That voltage at that speed is just average. The average overclock is 4.55ghz. So your overclock is pretty average.

My merchant has offered to swap it out, would you go for it? I mean is it likely to get better or worse?

Ok, well last night Prime crashed after just 20mins so I may need to up the VCore even more, getting even higher temps, maybe limiting me to 4.4GHz.
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After 4.5ghz the increase in speed is negligible depending on what you're doing. Very cpu intensive tasks will benefit and certain cpu bound games will benefit but an increase to say 4.6ghz won't be that noticeable. I'm just shooting 5.0ghz because I can. tongue.gif

THanks for the info. I would use it to run Battlefield 4, which is very CPU intensive, you reckon there will be much off a difference?
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My merchant has offered to swap it out, would you go for it? I mean is it likely to get better or worse?

Ok, well last night Prime crashed after just 20mins so I may need to up the VCore even more, getting even higher temps, maybe limiting me to 4.4GHz.
THanks for the info. I would use it to run Battlefield 4, which is very CPU intensive, you reckon there will be much off a difference?

That's one of those games that it actually could make a difference in. I am working on getting 4.7 or 4.8 before it releases with my ultimate goal of 5.0Ghz. biggrin.gif

You may not neccesarily need more vcore. Tone your vcore down a little bit and see if that increase stability. When I was working on 4.7 last week I was at 1.3vcore and it was taking a few passes of x264 to crash went all the way up to 1.31 and almost instant BSOD.
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My merchant has offered to swap it out, would you go for it? I mean is it likely to get better or worse?

Ok, well last night Prime crashed after just 20mins so I may need to up the VCore even more, getting even higher temps, maybe limiting me to 4.4GHz.
THanks for the info. I would use it to run Battlefield 4, which is very CPU intensive, you reckon there will be much off a difference?

I think you have a higher chance of getting one that hits 4.5ghz or better, but it's still mostly luck than anything else.

 

Sorry, too lazy to check back. Have you tried different levels of input voltage and Vcore? One way of finding out if you're getting closer or further from stability is to run multiple stress runs at one setting and finding average time to Bsod. This is time consuming though and worthwhile only when you're kind of stumped.

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I think you have a higher chance of getting one that hits 4.5ghz or better, but it's still mostly luck than anything else.

Sorry, too lazy to check back. Have you tried different levels of input voltage and Vcore? One way of finding out if you're getting closer or further from stability is to run multiple stress runs at one setting and finding average time to Bsod. This is time consuming though and worthwhile only when you're kind of stumped.

Definitely! If you increased the multi and then BSOD and then slowly increased voltages until you hit stability, then you only have up to go to. However, if you just threw some numbers in and tried from there, you might need to back it down some. I just found out that at 1.29Vcore and 1.9VRIN it lasted longer than 1.30Vcore and 1.95VRIN. Going to slowly work down and see if I gain any stability, otherwise I'll be moving up from 1.29.
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I might go back to testing 4.6ghz and after I fail, testing how low I can go with 4.5ghz's Vcore without losing stability. 

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So I realized today that even though my 4.6 OC was stable after hours of Prime95, 20 passes of LinX, and a couple hours of XTU - it could not hold up to 30 mins of Arkham Origins on maxed out settings....So I re-state my previous point: If you're going to be using an OC for gaming, then the best way to test for stability is to game.... thumb.gif
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I might go back to testing 4.6ghz and after I fail, testing how low I can go with 4.5ghz's Vcore without losing stability. 

Went all the way down to 1.28Vcore and still gets past the first pass of x264 which isn't too terribly stressful, but that's quite a difference. Especially considering that 1.295 did about the same. I'm going to keep going down until I can't pass the first pass and work my way up from there.
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Just a quick question, does the power supply quality affects the Overclock results? better quality ensures cleaner and more consistent power delivered to the system, Im wondering if changing to a better certified PSU will give me more room for overclock..... rolleyes.gif
    
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Just a quick question, does the power supply quality affects the Overclock results? better quality ensures cleaner and more consistent power delivered to the system, Im wondering if changing to a better certified PSU will give me more room for overclock..... rolleyes.gif

If you have a really crappy PSU, it could. IIRC the GS series from Corsair isn't all that bad, so I doubt in your case it would help.
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