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Just thought of something,if my O.S has crashed lots on SSD and have had bluescreens for those reasons alone will a re-install help with stability?
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I had a whole load of BSOD;'s at one point and couldn't figure out what was going on. Had the usual ones and some random. My Vector died very soon after, replaced with a Sammy pro and not had a problem since. So i'm guessing it may be worth a try!
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Sorry, I pop in and out of this thread very spontaneously and keeping track of 400 pages is nigh impossible. Still I randomly chose this page so hoorah? Lol anyhow I'm not sure if you ask out of disappointment or enthusiasm but my VIN is 2.1, kept getting instability with a worker crashing at 2.0 and didn't realize it was my FIVR till after adding quite a bit of voltage to my core and cache. I'm sure I'll be able to tweak it down a few tenths but for now 2.1 is def enough and 2.0 is def not.

To reiterate 4.7/4.7 at 1.43core 1.45ring 2.1vrin and .3 to sa/ia/io cause I'm running my 1866 at 2200 with tight timings. (I know I need faster ram)

I actually consider this chip to be a bit better than average, yet u would think it was garbage if you take to heart all the impulse "I'm stable" posts and the degree of scrutiny some people apply (or rather don't) to what they believe is stable.

FTR I have had this PC a few months now and have YET to play a game due to hours upon hours upon hours seeking a 24 hr run of prime95 blend. I was misled on what people were labeling "average vcore for xxxx speed" and when I would surpass that by a great deal, I would look elsewhere and never got stable before I realized it needed even more.

I am now stable in IBT on max. In hyper PI (great for ram). And In prime for 23 hours and change (I'm done! Lol) I have had so many 10-14 hour runs where it finally blue screened I want to shoot myself. My friends are all max level and some in ffxiv (which I built this PC for) and I have yet to start. Now THAT is two things, OCD is one of them.. Stable is the other tongue.gif

There was a fair amount of initial degredation which didn't help either. Still I always knew power and temp were never the issue. Took me a long time to come to the conclusions I have but I'm beyond confident they're very very sound.

FWIW I can pass IBT and hyper PI at nearly the same voltage at x48 but so far at 1.525v it was still failing prime blend. I know I wanted a 24/7 OC and I knew that I wasn't comfy running what could have amounted to 1.55 24/7 so as much as I wanted 4800mhz I had to call it.

So for those calling their 4800 @ 1.25 overclocks stable cause u can play games and take a SS or pass Aida or such, let me know when u pass prime for 24hr. Then I'll agree tongue.gif

On Vrin, maybe 2.1 vrin was what I needed to be stable at 4.6. Lil scary though.

On Prime, IDC. Either I can hit 4.6 or I can't. If I can, I sure as hell can't do it with Prime. Nonsynthetics are the only choice if I want to play at 4.6. I knew that going in.

 

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Username:SgtRotty
CPU Model:4770k
Core Multiplier:45
CPU VID: 1.255
Vcore: 1.272
Input Voltage:1.856
Uncore Multiplier:39
Uncore Voltage: default override
Cooling Solution:h100 push/pull (68c highest core)
Stability Test: bf3 only,tons of servers 64 players(no prime95,aida, etc)
Batch number: L312B534
Ram Speed: 2400 GSkillz 10,12,12,31,1T

Just posting my specs and results. I think its critical to have cpu input .600 above vcore for proper volts and smoothness. Ive been using these settings for couple weeks now. I waited a little bit before posting to ensure its stable.
I appreciate all the info in the guide, ive read it all, i keep referring back to it. Thx to all!

Edit: also using SA.150, IOD.030 IOA.030. Havnt messed around with the ring much. Sounds like it doesnt help much

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/5agu.png/

You will be charted in a bit.

 

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Just thought of something,if my O.S has crashed lots on SSD and have had bluescreens for those reasons alone will a re-install help with stability?

One guy said it helped. Personally I don't have the issue.

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To reiterate 4.7/4.7 at 1.43core 1.45ring 2.1vrin and .3 to sa/ia/io cause I'm running my 1866 at 2200 with tight timings. (I know I need faster ram)


Confused about your voltage - So you are basicly running 1:1 (Core and Cache) with the Vcore @ 1.43 and the Cache @ 1.45 - I thought that the limit on ring/cache/call-it-what-you-like, was around 1.25 ?
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Confused about your voltage - So you are basicly running 1:1 (Core and Cache) with the Vcore @ 1.43 and the Cache @ 1.45 - I thought that the limit on ring/cache/call-it-what-you-like, was around 1.25 ?

1.25-1.3, yes. He's running it beyond what we know more surely as safe. It might cause problems later. If I were him I'd back down to x45 ring and save a lot on ring bus voltage for no performance loss.

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Can i make a OC that way?:
Lets say my OC is semi stable @ 1,23v ,but i can run 1,25v without temp problems an i think its a sweet spot voltage, (should i adjust the voltage first and adjust my cpu OC step by step @ this voltage)
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I'm going to do a wipe and install tonight,been having 'driver-buffer-overrun' and other non overclock based bluescreens.
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I have a cost rica chip that does well; I have it on 4.8Ghz everyday and I've had it up to and over 5Ghz; though voltages was a little crazy @ 1.4 in reaching that. Anytihng past 4.8 wasn't really feasible for me unless I was completely delidded, which I was....and now, I just run bare die nowdays.

I am using the Asus Maximus VI Formula Mobo and I have the XSPC RayStorm water block with aluminum bracket. Yes, the factory supplies bolt/adjuster and springs are sufficient to keep it locked down tight enough. The thing is, when ur bare die, it doens't require that much pressure as you can crack something if you're not careful. I have 23C ambients, and my average idle now is around 23-25, with max temps hitting 70 on a spike @ 4.85Ghz with a 1.3Vcore. I run the cache at 46 with 1.275 Volts and I don't have a bit trouble anymore... with Haswell, if you plan to go over 4.6, get the IHS, and throw it away.... Else, unless you have an extreme cooling solution, you will throttle nearly soon as you click "start".


Forgot the batch#

3313B373

It's a fairly good chip.
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I have a cost rica chip that does well; I have it on 4.8Ghz everyday and I've had it up to and over 5Ghz; though voltages was a little crazy @ 1.4 in reaching that. Anytihng past 4.8 wasn't really feasible for me unless I was completely delidded, which I was....and now, I just run bare die nowdays.

I am using the Asus Maximus VI Formula Mobo and I have the XSPC RayStorm water block with aluminum bracket. Yes, the factory supplies bolt/adjuster and springs are sufficient to keep it locked down tight enough. The thing is, when ur bare die, it doens't require that much pressure as you can crack something if you're not careful. I have 23C ambients, and my average idle now is around 23-25, with max temps hitting 70 on a spike @ 4.85Ghz with a 1.3Vcore. I run the cache at 46 with 1.275 Volts and I don't have a bit trouble anymore... with Haswell, if you plan to go over 4.6, get the IHS, and throw it away.... Else, unless you have an extreme cooling solution, you will throttle nearly soon as you click "start".


Forgot the batch#

3313B373

It's a fairly good chip.

Copy and fill out the form on the first page please, so we can chart those results. :)

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To reiterate 4.7/4.7 at 1.43core 1.45ring 2.1vrin and .3 to sa/ia/io cause I'm running my 1866 at 2200 with tight timings. (I know I need faster ram)

I think we found our test case for what voltages will cause degradation. All of those seem pretty high to me, well above the average (okay, Vcore's not too bad, but that ring and IO...).
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