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^This!
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Can't recommend a Phanteks enough for air!

Ah yes, but I don't get it in my country, and getting it from elsewhere will turn out very expensive for me.
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I've set LLC so it doesn't move under load/idle from what I set it to. But basically what I meant by "what does it cover" was that it's meant to cover all volts going to the CPU AFAIK. So vcore would be one, what would the others be then..? If you disable iGPU does that lower the "requirement" etc. It's like this magical volt that nobody knows much about and it's range is huge.

I see what you're getting at. Vcore and Vring are the main two. High chance you'll get to a stage when you've increased either/both of these to a certain amount and won't be able to achieve stability due to vrin choking things. The higher you take core/uncore the more vrin you need, in some instances. Was going to say all instances but i think that would only apply if you had your core stable at the minimum vrin needed for that multi/vcore which not everybody has/does.

I've not really moved vring too much so not sure how much of an impact it has on vrin. For me when my core was running on optimum vcore and vrin i had to increase vrin by .025v when i started moving vring up from 1.15v. I've not adjusted it since and i'm now at 1.22vring so guesing core has a bigger impact than uncore on vrin.

With SA/IOD/IOA i'm not sure how much of an effect they have on vrin. I've only moved SA/IOD up to a max of +.1v/.15v and can't remember needing to change vrin at all to accommodate the increase. At one point i had +.15v on all three but couldn't stabilise at all, with an increase in vrin making no difference, ended up dropping IOA and all was good.

Not really found out much more than that myself, also still learning!

(EDIT - finding out SA/IOD etc can also cause instability if not dialled in right and just stetting them for .1v etc may not be what's needed. The higher i've been taking uncore the more i've had to spend time with these to get them spot on, and that's not necessarily increasing them!)

I've no idea what difference disabling the iGPU makes but i've had mine disabled from day 1.

Where is that setting in your bios?

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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

27C ambient? Gah, I only feel comfortable at like 23C ambient... I don't get how you guys do it.

24C is where I draw the line too. 31C would give me headaches!
post #4733 of 19539
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Originally Posted by tomxlr8 View Post

I've had x45 stable for a few months now on 1.32vcore.
Got a bit restless and decided to seek a new fronteer.
For now it seems like x47 at 1.45vcore.

Question:
Would you run at that vcore? or stick to x45... I've no rational reason to have x47 or x45 other than I want to have it higher... just worried about the damage long term. It's under wanter. x264 maxes out at 80C.


For no reason, for no amount of increase in performance would I ever run an OC with a 1.45Vcore.......UNLESS I was under Ln2 or something extreme... Long term?? Honestly, you're probably not going to make Long Term with voltages like that... Remember... It's not heat that kills CPU's, it's Voltage. Be very careful of any thing over 1.4....Unless u got an extreme method in place. It' will damage it and cause degredation over the long term. personally, It's not worth the damage for that extra performance increase. frown.gif I mean, you're adding OVER an extra VOLT for 200Mhz? That's a huge increase for a less return and it bodes bad problems that will soon rear their ugly heads...
post #4734 of 19539
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For no reason, for no amount of increase in performance would I ever run an OC with a 1.45Vcore.......UNLESS I was under Ln2 or something extreme... Long term?? Honestly, you're probably not going to make Long Term with voltages like that... Remember... It's not heat that kills CPU's, it's Voltage. Be very careful of any thing over 1.4....Unless u got an extreme method in place. It' will damage it and cause degredation over the long term. personally, It's not worth the damage for that extra performance increase. frown.gif I mean, you're adding OVER an extra VOLT for 200Mhz? That's a huge increase for a less return and it bodes bad problems that will soon rear their ugly heads...

Tenth of a volt, not a volt, otherwise it would 2.4v for a VOLT
 
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Ah yes, but I don't get it in my country, and getting it from elsewhere will turn out very expensive for me.

I'm away to sell mine. Want a shipping quote?
post #4736 of 19539
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Where is that setting in your bios?

I'll check later on, rig's busy, can't remember the exact menu but it's in with the std settings, no O/C. (i.e, HDD, boot, network etc etc)
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I'm away to sell mine. Want a shipping quote?

Ah thanks for the offer. I'm gonna look around and see if I can get a Noctua NH-D14 here instead.
post #4738 of 19539
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Where is that setting in your bios?
24C is where I draw the line too. 31C would give me headaches!

Just look around the BIOS. It'll have something about onboard GPU. I've had mine disabled since day 1 as well and it uses .012v according to HWinfo.
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I guess I'm just used to it. It's actually cooler than normal. During the summer, ambients go up to 31C before I decide to turn on the A/C.

Either way, hardly matters. More or less, we're just used to it since the temp range here is much higher than in Tennessee. smile.gif

Forget the CPU overheating, you're going to overheat!

 

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For no reason, for no amount of increase in performance would I ever run an OC with a 1.45Vcore.......UNLESS I was under Ln2 or something extreme... Long term?? Honestly, you're probably not going to make Long Term with voltages like that... Remember... It's not heat that kills CPU's, it's Voltage. Be very careful of any thing over 1.4....Unless u got an extreme method in place. It' will damage it and cause degredation over the long term. personally, It's not worth the damage for that extra performance increase. frown.gif I mean, you're adding OVER an extra VOLT for 200Mhz? That's a huge increase for a less return and it bodes bad problems that will soon rear their ugly heads...

Extra volt for 200mhz is pretty damned good in my eyes. I went 1.35 to 1.5v and can't even force 100mhz extra.

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Forget the CPU overheating, you're going to overheat!

Haha. Here in India, it's kind of a boon to have lower temps. All the same, I have much higher ambients so my OC is a lot more restricted. Come to think of it, I actually have a half decent OC with the temperatures that I have.

Lol Coretemp reports 66-69C after a 45 minute game of CSGO. Not bad at all. ---- Oh nevermind. Ambients are 25C. -.-
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