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Idk if you've ever watched some of the interviews with JJ from Asus, but he's incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to overclocking and testing.

I have. JJ knows a lot but I don't feel his videos are the end-all authorities on overclocking. For example, he failed to mention just how useless Uncore is. I was under the impression I'd have significant bottleneck at lower uncores. His word on a topic is worth more than nothing, but it's not confirmed until it's confirmed in my eyes. Tons of people have stressed with Prime or even Linpack and I've not heard problems.

 

For example,  if we get reports of dead CPUs we could start asking what stress test it was. But his word alone isn't enough for me to remove references to Prime 95 on my guide.

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I have. JJ knows a lot but I don't feel his videos are the end-all authorities on overclocking. For example, he failed to mention just how useless Uncore is. I was under the impression I'd have significant bottleneck at lower uncores. His word on a topic is worth more than nothing, but it's not confirmed until it's confirmed in my eyes. Tons of people have stressed with Prime or even Linpack and I've not heard problems.

For example,  if we get reports of dead CPUs we could start asking what stress test it was. But his word alone isn't enough for me to remove references to Prime 95 on my guide.

If he was the only one claiming it, I would agree that it isn't end-all. Major boutique system builders are also claiming this, you know the ones who offer factory overclocked PCs for gamers. They stress test every single PC that they make, do you really think they would use Aida if they thought it wasn't able to safely test the components?

Edit: I want it to be known that I am not book-thumping here. I am simply stating that Aida is a fine test to use, comparable with the others. I personally think Prime95 and IBT are safe to use. I just think Aida gets a bad rap for being too weak when in reality it just tests in ways that are more relatable to real world usage.
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If he was the only one claiming it, I would agree that it isn't end-all. Major boutique system builders are also claiming this, you know the ones who offer factory overclocked PCs for gamers. They stress test every single PC that they make, do you really think they would use Aida if they thought it wasn't able to safely test the components?

Edit: I want it to be known that I am not book-thumping here. I am simply stating that Aida is a fine test to use, comparable with the others. I personally think Prime95 and IBT are safe to use. I just think Aida gets a bad rap for being too weak when in reality it just tests in ways that are more relatable to real world usage.

I don't understand. You said if JJ was the only person claiming it, you would not believe it, but system builders are saying it too. Then I'd expect you to believe it but you don't believe it. So I'm a little confused.

 

I don't think Aida is a bad test to run... I have my own personal reason to not even try Linpack or IBT even before I went adaptive and got stuck there.

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Aida'a biggest problem is that it is too slow. I just don't have time to wait 10 hours for Aida to fail when IBT will fail in 10 minutes.
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Aida'a biggest problem is that it is too slow. I just don't have time to wait 10 hours for Aida to fail when IBT will fail in 10 minutes.
but it doesn't have AVX2 support right? only AVX?
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I don't understand. You said if JJ was the only person claiming it, you would not believe it, but system builders are saying it too. Then I'd expect you to believe it but you don't believe it. So I'm a little confused.

I don't think Aida is a bad test to run... I have my own personal reason to not even try Linpack or IBT even before I went adaptive and got stuck there.

I'm saying that it carries weight when people like that claim that it isn't safe, but for me personally I haven't seen it. I do believe they know more than me though.
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but it doesn't have AVX2 support right? only AVX?

IBT? I use the AVX version, but there's supposedly a AVX2 one floating around (I've got the Linx version but I never used it). Aida is AVX also.
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If he was the only one claiming it, I would agree that it isn't end-all. Major boutique system builders are also claiming this, you know the ones who offer factory overclocked PCs for gamers. They stress test every single PC that they make, do you really think they would use Aida if they thought it wasn't able to safely test the components?

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But are the system builders saying it because they tested it and came to that conclusion, or because that's what Asus said and they are just parroting it? That's the problem with stuff like this, circular reporting. Asus says it and a bunch of people pick up on it, and then next thing you know, everybody's saying it.

My question to Asus is "why?". Why is Prime no good for HAswell? What's different about Haswell that makes Prime95 useless, when it's been the accepted standard for 10 years? It doesn't help when they say that Prime isn't "certified" for Haswell, like Prime has ever been "Certified" for anything. It's just math. So Haswell can't do math? If the reason not to use it is because it puts an unrealistic load on the system and causes failures that normally wouldn't occur, like Furmark for GPUs, then fine, just say that. But the whole vague "it's not good for Haswell" makes me think Aida paid them off.

*puts on conspiracy theory hat* Is it a coincidence that Prime/IBT/etc are free and Aida is pay?
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*puts on conspiracy theory hat* Is it a coincidence that Prime/IBT/etc are free and Aida is pay?

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But are the system builders saying it because they tested it and came to that conclusion, or because that's what Asus said and they are just parroting it? That's the problem with stuff like this, circular reporting. Asus says it and a bunch of people pick up on it, and then next thing you know, everybody's saying it.

My question to Asus is "why?". Why is Prime no good for HAswell? What's different about Haswell that makes Prime95 useless, when it's been the accepted standard for 10 years? It doesn't help when they say that Prime isn't "certified" for Haswell, like Prime has ever been "Certified" for anything. It's just math. So Haswell can't do math? If the reason not to use it is because it puts an unrealistic load on the system and causes failures that normally wouldn't occur, like Furmark for GPUs, then fine, just say that. But the whole vague "it's not good for Haswell" makes me think Aida paid them off.

*puts on conspiracy theory hat* Is it a coincidence that Prime/IBT/etc are free and Aida is pay?

Here is what I know, taken from HARDOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/7
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Unvalidated stress tests are not advised ( such as Prime 95 or LinX or OCCT, Intel Burn Test or other comparable applications ). For high grade CPU/IMC and System Bus testing Aida64 is recommended along with general applications usage like PC Mark 7. Aida has an advantage as it is stability test has been designed for the Haswell architecture and test specific functions like AES, AVX and other instruction sets that prime and like synthetics do not touch. As such not only does it load the CPU 100% but will also test other parts of CPU not used under applications like Prime95. Other applications to consider are SiSoft 2013 or Passmark BurnIn. Additionally this generation has a more specialized point of consideration for synthetic stress tests. When using an adaptive vid voltage control will be automatically controlled by the iVR when a complex concurrent AVX load is initialized from Applications like Prime95 or Aida Or LinX more voltage will be supplied than has been defined/requested.
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