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Oh human nature. So I hope you already changed blck back to 100. Now since it's stable for you, try to lower the voltage by 0.05, and try a 1.3 voltage first, because 1.4 for 4.5 seems too much...
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Oh human nature. So I hope you already changed blck back to 100. Now since it's stable for you, try to lower the voltage by 0.05, and try a 1.3 voltage first, because 1.4 for 4.5 seems too much...

Some chips are just really crappy. My own 4670k needs 1.34v to run 4.4ghz stable. I haven't even bothered to attempt 4.5ghz yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if I needed at least 1.38v minimum.
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Shooting for rock solid 4.7, currently at:


4.6 profile, solid:

1.85vrin @ turbo llc
1.27vcore
1.2 ring
"turbo mode" uncore (8x idle, 40x load)


Attempted 4.7 not solid yet:

1.95vrin @ extreme llc
1.345vcore (just 124'd at 1.335 with maybe very slight settings changes, but 101 before.. 101 can happen with too low vcore, if you're borderline, i think)

1.22 ring
"turbo mode" uncore (8x idle, 40x load)
+0.1 sa
+0.1 dio

^When it works perfectly, i'll pull back the stuff i don't need. This is a HT off profile, so my temps are fine on silver arrow. Didn't hit 190 on cinebench r15 singlethreaded, but there is no doubt in my mind i could break it with little effort if i set uncore/RAM to stuff that is not "strictly stable" as a couple quick runs i did showed only a couple points off

I'll keep updated of my progress, errors etc, and any discussion/pointers appriciated!

..And now i'm confused because i just found an old screenshot of 47x passing an 8 minute x264 encode with 1.32vcore, 1.88vrin.. missing sa/dio/aio and llc level from the info with it. grr

It was probably extreme. I'll try lowering my VRIN again at some point.

At 4.6ghz I've gone through 3 nights of Stockfish 4, a night or two of Houdini vs Komodo, logging hours in BF3 and Skyrim, zero bsods due to CPU so far.

I must point out if I do bsod later, that I did originally fail overnight x264. For me upping Vrin was the magic touch. I suspect if I uo Vrin by another +0.05, +0.1, that would make me x264 overnight stable, but I don't want to do that unless I absolutely must.

 

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I don't really know what i'm doing but with the core voltage on 1.35v I get my 4670k stable with 4,5Ghz in bf3, prime95 and ROG Realbench. With IBT it gets 100C with my Dark rrock pro 2, however in prime it only gets about 85.I couldn't get it to 4,6Ghz, even with 1,4v. Does anyone know how to solve this? And is there a reason I get bluescreens when I change the Bclk to even 101? And does anyone know how to get this voltage down? I have the idea it's quiete alot sinds people seem to consider everything above 1,25v as "extreme". I am planning to sell my chip next year (or the year after0 so a nice lifesapwn wont be a problem.

Meneer, read the first post.

List all your settings, vrin, core/uncore multiplier, core/uncore voltage.

And just ditch IBT, probably even Prime, go with x264 or OCCT.

Back off on the test if you hit 100C.

 

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Dude...you say you don't know what you doing so why touch stuff you don't know about?
100celcius? You shouldn't even get 100 c at all and if you do you need to lower the voltage...also you shouldn't touch 1.4 because that's the reason for you're retardedly high temps.
Stay at 4.4 or something lower.

Hey small question guys, if stable for 4 hours on AIDA, then like a hour later I BSOD is that still considered stable?

I don't use AIDA but that's a maybe at best.

I've been saying, x264 overnight pass = Stability 4 sho. But I didn't pass it in my newest overclocking settings but I have not crashed yet, lol.

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Thanks you for the reply. I've reset my CMOS because I wanted to try to enable power saving options but had continued voltage and clock. So started 4.4@1.23, tried IBT for the first time, 10 runs, high, success. But you say to ditch it, so I assume it is not realiable?
I want something that will tell you if ur system is stable in like under a hour but apparently nothing's out there.
I'll try OCCT when I leave for my grandmas birthday dinner, which is about 2-3 hours I'm estimating.

So do I just either change the test type to infinite(when I want to start and stop) or automatic (for a duration like 3 hours) and press On? Threads is on 8 even though I have 4(4670k) so I should do 4 correct?

Thanks for your help.
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Thanks you for the reply. I've reset my CMOS because I wanted to try to enable power saving options but had continued voltage and clock. So started 4.4@1.23, tried IBT for the first time, 10 runs, high, success. But you say to ditch it, so I assume it is not realiable?
I want something that will tell you if ur system is stable in like under a hour but apparently nothing's out there.
I'll try OCCT when I leave for my grandmas birthday dinner, which is about 2-3 hours I'm estimating.

So do I just either change the test type to infinite(when I want to start and stop) or automatic (for a duration like 3 hours) and press On? Threads is on 8 even though I have 4(4670k) so I should do 4 correct?

Thanks for your help.

The test is very hot. If you're going to base your idea of what multiplier is achievable with IBT or god forbid, Linpack, you'll be seriously thermally limited.

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The test is very hot. If you're going to base your idea of what multiplier is achievable with IBT or god forbid, Linpack, you'll be seriously thermally limited.

LOL.
So what stress test do you recommend for overclocking?
Edit: how's OCCT? Too crazy also?
Hmm I'll just get 4.5 and call it a lifetime.
Edited by geogga - 11/11/13 at 2:30pm
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LOL.
So what stress test do you recommend for overclocking?

My current advice is, x264 overnight passed = stable. But you can use OCCT which is a synthetic but isn't much hotter than x264. x264 is a nonsynthetic. I wrote a bit more on it in the first post.

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The CPU going into sleep states doesn't push anything to your SSD. I don't know why you'd think it would. The system isn't hibernating or sleeping, everything is still stored in main RAM, it's just the CPU cache that is getting flushed and the the cores are put to sleep. There should be no impact on the SSD at all. Unless you have a link that explains why the CPU going into C6/7 will cause anything to be written to the SSD?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333701/intel-c-states-off-better-ssd-performance/10

http://forums.vortez.net/motherboards-cpus/4274-effects-c-states-sata-performance.html

http://www.thessdreview.com/Forums/ssd-optimization-guide/2763.htm

http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=6724
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Hello.
Read the x264 part a bit more...uhh on the download website, it says to turn off turbo mode for accurate results. Since I'm not benchmarking can I leave it on? I'm just trying to pass it so I'm going to assume to leave it on, right?
Brb downloading it, will run 3-5 tests and report back.

Edit: downloaded it. It says it will automatically do two passes, I assume you do this 3-5 more times?
Another edit: running. It, and it says it will have 4 runs with 2 passes each run.
So far so good on pass 2. Fingers crossed, if works, will try again tommorrow at 1.275, (1.275 failed @4.5 on the synthetic benchmarks that I tried, like IBT,AIDA,PRIME, and who in the f'ing world does that kinda intensity real life?

Thank you for your quick and helpful responses dark, really appreciate them for a new OCer smile.gif
Edited by geogga - 11/11/13 at 6:40pm
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They all talk about affecting the speed of the SSD and there's no mention of C6/C7 anywhere. And there's no mention of the excessive writes to the SSD that you claim by having them (C6/C7) on.

With an SSD, since it's marginally faster than a mechanical drive, and because of the chipset, it doesn't really make a difference. On my Evo, I get 539/415 Seq R/W and 94k/57k Random R/W IOPS with all my C-States on. So performance isn't really affected with ANY C-State on or off.

@Darkwizzie

x264 HD 5.0 is supposed to use 100% of the CPU? Never seems to use less than 96-97% of each core when I'm stressing. I've noticed this quite a few times. As a result, the load temps are only 75C. The previous version I had ( from the main post ) had looping issues so I downloaded another one about 10-20 pages or more ago which doesn't do full CPU usage. Wanted to know if this is normal.
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