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For 1 entire run of x264, it's about an hour, like you can't do anything, only start and stop.
I agree with you on the last part. So doing two-three complete x264s is what I'll do tonight.

Hopefully skylake, or X89 will be easier to OC and won't have the haswell problems.
I
Side question: is Haswell E and Broadwell E X89?

More like x99.
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I wouldn't expect any major step up in performance. I see only more issues from here, Ivy to Haswell, more and more power saving, more mobile, less performance.

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I'd rather just get higher performance with less hassle.
I tell my friends OMG I FINALLY GOT 4.6GHZ WORKING KINDDA
"So... you only got 4.6ghz, huh."

Relative difficulty is more about the kind of voltages that you are using than the clockspeeds tongue.gif
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Haswell has a good performance bump over ivy, in benching and even real world usage figures, kerping the additional power saving features on a side. 4.6Ghz 4770k is certainly a 5Ghz 3770k. What more could a person expect.
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Haswell has a good performance bump over ivy, in benching and even real world usage figures, kerping the additional power saving features on a side. 4.6Ghz 4770k is certainly a 5Ghz 3770k. What more could a person expect.

A jump in performance like Sandy which I know Intel is capable of. Considering Ivy overclocked more than Haswell, Sandy more than Ivy, factoring in IPC it's not really a big deal. Imagine if the flagship R9 GPU was barely faster than the 6000 series' flagship. We'd rage all over and our games would die a bloody death and riots will occur.

 

In related news, my 4.6 setting has held on for yet another night of Stockfish load. Excellent, I think I'm on the 3rd day in a row now. Gaming all night tonight too. I'm going to update my settings on the chart.

 

Don't forget guys, batches ideally should now contain the location, malay or whatnot. Also, ram timings are also accept in the document.

 

I'm also adding an additional section under the graph at bottom of the document with settings of lower multipliers. Don't forget, what's typically listed on the chart is the max stable OC, this will help see how chips scale.


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Considering Ivy overclocked more than Haswell, Sandy more than Ivy, factoring in IPC it's not really a big deal.

To be fair, Haswell@4.6 is like >10% faster than sandy@5.0 in x264. I agree though
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Haswell & Ivy are very similar for maximum overclocks, ivy is a bit easier to get it there, haswell can be trickier but does get the IPC advantage clock for clock.
Many people did complain about ivy being limited to about 4.5Ghz as well for the first couple months, running at 5ghz was pretty rare.

Sandy was just different, easier to get to 5ghz, but too limited for maximum overclocks. There are hundreds of ivy bridge chips faster than the world's fastest 2500k & 2600ks, haswell is only at about 100 faster so far but catching up.
The thing most people loved about sandy is the same thing many hated about it, it was too easy. It took about 10 minutes with an air cooler to see how fast it could possibly go, that was it, nothing can make it go any faster. Easy to get it all clocked up but for those that like to play with settings & clocks sandy got boring pretty quickly.
    
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To be fair, Haswell@4.6 is like >10% faster than sandy@5.0 in x264. I agree though

2 and a half years for 10% improvement?  What about Westmere vs Sandy? IIRC it was a much larger difference. :sniper: 

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Haswell & Ivy are very similar for maximum overclocks, ivy is a bit easier to get it there, haswell can be trickier but does get the IPC advantage clock for clock.
Many people did complain about ivy being limited to about 4.5Ghz as well for the first couple months, running at 5ghz was pretty rare.

Sandy was just different, easier to get to 5ghz, but too limited for maximum overclocks. There are hundreds of ivy bridge chips faster than the world's fastest 2500k & 2600ks, haswell is only at about 100 faster so far but catching up.
The thing most people loved about sandy is the same thing many hated about it, it was too easy. It took about 10 minutes with an air cooler to see how fast it could possibly go, that was it, nothing can make it go any faster. Easy to get it all clocked up but for those that like to play with settings & clocks sandy got boring pretty quickly.
I did get a whiff of that, Sandy having lower max OC. If you're up for doing extreme OC then yes, but I'm not capable of doing that. As far as I'm concerned, I just want performance. There's a certain novelty to figuring out the CPU but it wears thing quickly as your Bsod and Bsod (especially being one of the first adopters, lol).
 
BUT, at least I (think) I can read rest with my 4.6ghz overclock. Moving up my own chart, YIPIEEEE :devil:
 

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I did get a whiff of that, Sandy having lower max OC. If you're up for doing extreme OC then yes, but I'm not capable of doing that. As far as I'm concerned, I just want performance. There's a certain novelty to figuring out the CPU but it wears thing quickly as your Bsod and Bsod (especially being one of the first adopters, lol).

BUT, at least I (think) I can read rest with my 4.6ghz overclock. Moving up my own chart, YIPIEEEE devil.gif

Guys, 311, 312 are Malay, and 33x are Costa, right?

Chart graph has been updated. Chart median has been replaced with an actual Google Doc function and now updates automatically. Median and average OC are now bolded.

This is true with sandy for normal cooling, most ivy (or haswell) need delidding the the works to get upwards of 5ghz where many sandy could just do it, even with mid grade cooling. There were the rare worst of the worst sandy chips that simply could not do 5ghz though, even ln2 cooled. At least with delidding & cooling the ivy & haswell can be forced higher.

Batches starting with L are Malay, staring with 3 are Costa.
    
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Whoa darkwizzie, that's a stupidly high voltage for 46x. Must be like ~200w of power right there :O


For reference, my chip is L314B297. So, a Malay chip. Pretty sure this batch of chips are all in India, so finding overclocking results will be hard.
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