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Yeah, I know. I apologized, should've seen in a post. How long did it take for your 18 passes in x264?
I'm currently crashing in chess about 4 minutes in at 4.4ghz with 1.290v. Looks like I bot a crappy chip. Unless I can do something else.
Hmm, didn't time it. I think 2-3 hours, something like that.
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Thanks cres07. So if anyone else is reading this.. it seems I have a crappy chip, but not 100% sure. I've read and read so much, I need some updated info. No offense to anyone.! Here's what I'm working with thus far (haven't ran x264 all night yet), but I'm wondering if there's a way to decrease my VCORE VOLTAGE without decreasing my actual core clock. This is probably in this thread somewhere.. I just cannot find it. Here's a screenie of what I have @ 4.4ghz.

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Scotty man, please can you consolidate you questions into a smaller number of posts? This isn't an IM/texting app where each sentence and thought should be a different post smile.gif.

Ok, after a looong weekend of testing and retesting, my (current) final stable settings. Darkwizzie, feel free to include if you'd like.

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OC
Core: x46 1.275V (VCORE oscillates between 1.296 and 1.312, I'm obviously NOT on Adaptive, so quite interesting)
Cache Ratio: x45 1.270V (it would run on x46 1.275V and passes x264 but occasionally fails OCCT and I didn't want to up the Uncore voltage above core voltage, so brought down to x45 and could get away with 1.270)
BLCK: 100 (stock)
CPU Strap: 100 (stock)
Analog IO +0.145
Digital IO +0.145
Sys Agent +0.145
VCCIN / CPUInput / CPUEventual: 1.920
DRAM: XMP 2133Mhz (9 11 11 31 2) Auto Voltage (as expected resolved to 1.6V)

Other misc. voltages are on Auto but in case it may help someone, they got resovled to (according to ASUS AI Suite):
PCH Core 1.05
PLL Termination 1.200
VTTDDR 0.800
PCHVLX 1.500
Clock Crossing Voltage 1.150

Testing
x264: 18 passes (got impatient as i got home from dinner tongue.gif)
InterlBurnTestVersion2.54: 10 passes @ High stress level
InterlBurnTestVersion2.54: 5 passes @ Very High stress level (stopped at 5 not because of failures but because temps got really high, it was hovering around 96C-97C)
OCCT: test OCCT, Automatic, 3 hours, 64bits, Large Data Set, 8 threads
OCCT: test LINPACK, 1 hour, 64bits, all logical cores, memory: custom 10Gigs (NO AVX as it ran way too hot!)
Chess: 1hour (mostly cause I got impatient tongue.gif), run concurrently for a portion of x264 test tongue.gif
Prime95 v27.9: Blend 16 passes and running now, planning to let it run another 10 passes or so, temps peaked once to 95C but running in the mid 80s consistently)

NOTE: for all of the test, at least for a portion of each test (sometimes for the entire duration of some tests), I am using my PC actively, usually chrome with 15-20 tabs, of which 5 are playing random youtube vids, streaming music, browsing sites, and opening and closing other random apps (eg antivirus app, Eclipse, etc). This was hardest to do with x264 as for some reason it causes sluggishness that not even Prime95/Linpack cause smile.gif.

For the sluggishness, that's right, x264 causes lots of lag, as bad as chess.

You have been charted, thanks.

 

I've yet to Bsod at x46 despite failing overnight x264.

It's been like two weeks and I've subjected it to overnight Stockfish, Bf3, and now really banging the Skyrim. I've seen no Bsods.

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For the sluggishness, that's right, x264 causes lots of lag, as bad as chess.
You have been charted, thanks.

I've yet to Bsod at x46 despite failing overnight x264.
It's been like two weeks and I've subjected it to overnight Stockfish, Bf3, and now really banging the Skyrim. I've seen no Bsods.

From my experience with stockfish.. it has NOT ran all cores at 100% like Houdini has. So I guess houdini engine is what I'm using. I think that max is 68c. But I would like to know.. is there anything I can do to DECREASE the VCORE Voltage? Hell.. I'm at 1.315v core already... @ 4.4ghz.. either it's a seriously bad chip.. or something I'm not doing right?
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From my experience with stockfish.. it has NOT ran all cores at 100% like Houdini has. So I guess houdini engine is what I'm using. I think that max is 68c. But I would like to know.. is there anything I can do to DECREASE the VCORE Voltage? Hell.. I'm at 1.315v core already... @ 4.4ghz.. either it's a seriously bad chip.. or something I'm not doing right?

I don't know what your settings are, you penta-posted so now I'm confused. There exists an edit function.

Stockfish seems to cause faster Bsods though. x264 doesn't do 100% all cores but it Bsods faster than chess. So...


Edited by Darkwizzie - 11/17/13 at 10:27pm
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From my experience with stockfish.. it has NOT ran all cores at 100% like Houdini has. So I guess houdini engine is what I'm using. I think that max is 68c. But I would like to know.. is there anything I can do to DECREASE the VCORE Voltage? Hell.. I'm at 1.315v core already... @ 4.4ghz.. either it's a seriously bad chip.. or something I'm not doing right?

You'll need to take your Input voltage off of Auto. Overclocking with Haswell involves more than simply changing core multi and vcore. If you read through Darkwizzie's guide on the first page, this is one of the topics that is discussed. I think it would do very well for you if you went through that guide again. cool.gif
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Overclocked R.A.M this weekend,now at 2400mhz,does'nt hinder overclock at all.At 4.7 now,highest I can go for the temps I'm happy with.Will post screenies next weekend as away for work.thumb.gif
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You'll need to take your Input voltage off of Auto. Overclocking with Haswell involves more than simply changing core multi and vcore. If you read through Darkwizzie's guide on the first page, this is one of the topics that is discussed. I think it would do very well for you if you went through that guide again. cool.gif

Do you actually think I would keep asking questions if I understood the guide? I mean really.. I've read the thing numerous times, I really wish people would stop saying that, "read the guide, or something to that affect. I understand there is more to it that just changing the multi and voltage core, but I'm doing it 1 variable at a time.So I may be a slow learner in this field. If people would answer ALL my questions in my posts, then I wouldn't have to keep asking some of the same questions. If I keep asking, then obviously I, either, 1, don't understand something, or 2, I didn't see an explaination. So these comments like "read the guide" or something are just more frustrating than anything.
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I don't know what your settings are, you penta-posted so now I'm confused. There exists an edit function.
Stockfish seems to cause faster Bsods though. x264 doesn't do 100% all cores but it Bsods faster than chess. So...
Well let's see.. First post I had my voltages in it, then (my apologies) I added a statement or 2, asking about x264, on how many passes are "overnight", and how do I set the number of passes. ( I couldn't even get it to run before). so As I also said.. I didn't mean to post like I did, but was distracted (not in those exact words).
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I forgot to add something.. my core multi voltages looks like this:
VCCIN: 1.760v auto
Core: 1.200v override
Ring: 1.064 auto
SA: 0.912v auto
IO: 1.016v auto
maunal set uncore to 34.

Is it really required to turn the vdroop to 100%? (its on auto now, Doug, Don't get mad.. I just don't understand the vdroop) what exactly is the vr ovp ocp?

Scotty I have your mobo. The setting you're looking for isn't VR Overprotection, it's some other term. It's in Digitall Power settings IIRC. The setting didn't do much for me. It *might* have helped my going from 45 to 46 but I doubt it.


You didn't actually list your core multiplier. Your siggy was 4.2. So we'll go with that unless you say otherwise.

Try hitting 1.25v, 1.85 VCCIN and go from there.

 

Assuming ram is stock.

Long shot tweak but can't hurt: Set Vring to 1.2v. No, 1.2v is FINE.

 

If you Bsod under normal use @ 4.2ghz @ 1.25v then try 1.3v Vcore and 1.9v VCCIN. Last resort, 1.35v 1.95 VCCIN. If you faill all those, then your CPU is officially tainted and you've won the 'worst CPU of this thread' award.

 

Unless your cooler is a joke, you should survive normal usage @ 1.35v just fine. Just don't accidently plop that on adaptive with Prime.

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