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Scotty I have your mobo. The setting you're looking for isn't VR Overprotection, it's some other term. It's in Digitall Power settings IIRC. The setting didn't do much for me. It *might* have helped my going from 45 to 46 but I doubt it.


You didn't actually list your core multiplier. Your siggy was 4.2. So we'll go with that unless you say otherwise.
Try hitting 1.25v, 1.85 VCCIN and go from there.

Assuming ram is stock.
Long shot tweak but can't hurt: Set Vring to 1.2v. No, 1.2v is FINE.

If you Bsod under normal use @ 4.2ghz @ 1.25v then try 1.3v Vcore and 1.9v VCCIN. Last resort, 1.35v 1.95 VCCIN. If you faill all those, then your CPU is officially tainted and you've won the 'worst CPU of this thread' award.

Unless your cooler is a joke, you should survive normal usage @ 1.35v just fine. Just don't accidently plop that on adaptive with Prime.

Ok, so again, the question remains. How many passes is an "overnight" test for x264? You said in your guide, 20 passes or more is overkill. I also asked earlier how to set the number of passes. No one answered. And if you look at post number 5522, it has my current attempt, and I asked how to improve the situation without upping the vcore. And also, no one answered about my vdroop question. I don't change siggy until absolute stability. I asked about that other setting, because I was told to disable it.
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Ok, so again, the question remains. How many passes is an "overnight" test for x264? You said in your guide, 20 passes or more is overkill. I also asked earlier how to set the number of passes. No one answered. And if you look at post number 5522, it has my current attempt, and I asked how to improve the situation without upping the vcore. And also, no one answered about my vdroop question. I don't change siggy until absolute stability. I asked about that other setting, because I was told to disable it.

I revise my advise on x264. 20 pass is typically fine but overnight if you want to be more sure. You can change how many passes on the new link in the guide. I added the download link to x264 in the guide and right under where I list that is the link to the loop exe.

I honestly don't see much you can do here to change things without upping Vcore. There's no miracle tweak and your Vccin/other settings are not totally off so all that's left to change for now is Vcore and Vccin to compensate.

You can't disable Vdroop control on this mobo, only set it to a really low percentage.

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I revise my advise on x264. 20 pass is typically fine but overnight if you want to be more sure. You can change how many passes on the new link in the guide. I added the download link to x264 in the guide and right under where I list that is the link to the loop exe.


I honestly don't see much you can do here to change things without upping Vcore. There's no miracle tweak and your Vccin/other settings are not totally off so all that's left to change for now is Vcore and Vccin to compensate.


You can't disable Vdroop control on this mobo, only set it to a really low percentage.

Yeah, I figured that. What Would having the vdroop set to 100% do? I was also told to set that to 100%. Btw, I haven't even messed with the uncore / ring voltages yet.
Only bsods I got were 124 and a 003.
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For the sluggishness, that's right, x264 causes lots of lag, as bad as chess.
You have been charted, thanks.

I've yet to Bsod at x46 despite failing overnight x264.
It's been like two weeks and I've subjected it to overnight Stockfish, Bf3, and now really banging the Skyrim. I've seen no Bsods.
Actually, chess with the recommended engine doesn't cause slugginess for me, it's only x264 that's really bad. Everything else has pretty much an unnoticable effect on "daily" type of PC use.
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Overclocked R.A.M this weekend,now at 2400mhz,does'nt hinder overclock at all.At 4.7 now,highest I can go for the temps I'm happy with.Will post screenies next weekend as away for work.thumb.gif
Congrats! For me, though, I thought the same at first. It even passed everything fine on x264. But running OCCT for 3 hours BSOD-ed in the LAST 3rd hour, and the only difference was OCing my RAM. So I brought it down to the more conservative 2133 XMP profile and it worked fine. I still don't know if it was random, etc (with these tests you can never tell, there is no magic gauranteed stability test), but I had been ready to swear I was rock solid before OCCT. As Darkwizzie pointed out though, not sure how much these tests mean, if you in your personal use you never BSOD anyway.
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Got these settings 24h prime stable, x264 stable and game stable :
core: 45x @ 1,23vcore (1,22 vid)
vccin: 1,8v
Uncore: 42x @ 1,2v
RAM: 2133mhz

So should i try to lower my uncore Vortage? I think i can can do it with less voltage.......I think !!! Not sure
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Are you staying at 1.22vid 4.5ghz core? Not higher?
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Not higher because i need 1.3.vcore for 46x and i test with prime 28.1 and the temps Would explode......
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Got these settings 24h prime stable, x264 stable and game stable :
core: 45x @ 1,23vcore (1,22 vid)
vccin: 1,8v
Uncore: 42x @ 1,2v
RAM: 2133mhz

So should i try to lower my uncore Vortage? I think i can can do it with less voltage.......I think !!! Not sure

Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone can answer that question for you. Each CPU is unique, test it and see with what level ot instability YOU are comfortable with. If you want to keep voltage even lower, try it ,see how often you crash, and if it's acceptable to you in everyday use.
If it helps, I ended up with core x46@1.275V, ratio x45@1.270V, VCCIN 1.920V, RAM: XMP 2133, SA/Digi/Analog. +0.145. Hope this helps. But this can only serve as a general guideline, and you are very much in line with what I got. So that's as far as anyone can help you.
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I ran xtu for 12 hours and only ran x264 10x for me. I didn't run the loop script though because I want to be around and monitor the test. 12 hours xtu and 10x x264 was sufficient and I never bsod or crash for about 3 month now.

I am currently testing 4.6 ghz and I can boot and do light work at 1.32 but needed 1.36 to be stable with gaming, rendering and encoding. These chip just have a range and wall when there will not be much we can do about their power and heat.

Currently running 4.6 at 1.36 vcore and not running any stress test on it at those setting because of heat. I fail all test due to heat so I am just using it to do what I do everyday and found a "stable" setting that way. Going on 3 week without a bsod and this is without stress test. the guide is great but it is still a guide and we should use our judgement to how we tweak our chip as well.

I also discover for my chip from the months of testing that my chip operate best when I have uncore 300 MHz under. 45 multi and 42 uncore and 46 multi and 43 uncore gave me the highest number in cinebench,xtu,geekbench and pc mark. My point is, these chip are sensitive and really require time to get to know them and time getting them set up just right for what you need to do.
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