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Even increasing VRIN etc? VRIN LLC? Did you try playing with SA?DIO?

When you're nearer a chips limits it seems much more sensitive to such things. 1.29 to 1.43 vcore for 100mhz is pretty ludicrous, much much more likely that some other setting is messed up

yea;. ive been at it weeks. once I get to that point. (the upper limit of the chip) I usually go a bit liberal with those voltages (sa/ioa/iod/vrin) and set them high as to eliminate them as a culprit.

its unfortunate but I think its just a very very bad chip. Below average for sure. its a shame I was hoping for a better one than my last after it broke, I ended up with worse lol. Cooling and power are very good, the only thing that is an obstacle is the chip itself.

I just got back from the doctors and running prime blend at 4.6/4.6 with a vcore of 1.43, a vring of 1.36, a vrin of 1.9, and the imc voltages all at default due to my memory being at default - resulted in a hard lock. (likely too low of vrin) but this is where im at after working my way up. I was hoping to do a bit better after changing from some Gelid paste to some Liquid metal yesterday afternoon. It dropped my temps at max load by a fairly astounding amount (we're talkin like 10c) but in the end, it looks like its taking roughly the same voltages to achieve 4.6 which is certainly indicative of the chip being at its limit.

Although one thing I have been curious about is the PCH voltages and any potential affect they may or may not have? Being the OCD bastard that I am, I refuse to leave anything on auto (let me tell yuou what a pain this is with todays ram and the two dozen or so tertiary timings) so I took pch core and whatever the other pch voltage was (I forget) and turned off auto and set them to their default of 1.090 and 1.500. I assume(d) It wouldn't make a difference either way, but figured id put it out there in case someone knew/knows otherwise.

sorry for the book!
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Will Doug cause miracles to occur and rainbows to flow out our mouths? drool.gif  ph34r-smiley.gif  wubsmiley.gif  devil.gif  wheee.gif

lol. Not at all, just good to share info as we might pick up a thing or two from each other, every days a school day! wink.gif
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yea;. ive been at it weeks. once I get to that point. (the upper limit of the chip) I usually go a bit liberal with those voltages (sa/ioa/iod/vrin) and set them high as to eliminate them as a culprit.

its unfortunate but I think its just a very very bad chip. Below average for sure. its a shame I was hoping for a better one than my last after it broke, I ended up with worse lol. Cooling and power are very good, the only thing that is an obstacle is the chip itself.

I just got back from the doctors and running prime blend at 4.6/4.6 with a vcore of 1.43, a vring of 1.36, a vrin of 1.9, and the imc voltages all at default due to my memory being at default - resulted in a hard lock. (likely too low of vrin) but this is where im at after working my way up. I was hoping to do a bit better after changing from some Gelid paste to some Liquid metal yesterday afternoon. It dropped my temps at max load by a fairly astounding amount (we're talkin like 10c) but in the end, it looks like its taking roughly the same voltages to achieve 4.6 which is certainly indicative of the chip being at its limit.

Although one thing I have been curious about is the PCH voltages and any potential affect they may or may not have? Being the OCD bastard that I am, I refuse to leave anything on auto (let me tell yuou what a pain this is with todays ram and the two dozen or so tertiary timings) so I took pch core and whatever the other pch voltage was (I forget) and turned off auto and set them to their default of 1.090 and 1.500. I assume(d) It wouldn't make a difference either way, but figured id put it out there in case someone knew/knows otherwise.

sorry for the book!

oh and LLC as well as the rest of the phase settings are at maximum/extreme
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...
its unfortunate but I think its just a very very bad chip. Below average for sure. its a shame I was hoping for a better one than my last after it broke, I ended up with worse lol. Cooling and power are very good, the only thing that is an obstacle is the chip itself.
...

How did the chip break? Mechanical damage or voltage?
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You guys see the price on these 4770k's at Microcenter???? only 199$

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor
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You guys see the price on these 4770k's at Microcenter???? only 199$

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor
Just note that they don't ship, so you have to go to a store and pay full tax (which in NY sucks tongue.gif) plus the transportation costs, it's still a good deal though.
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It looks like we can pretty much agree that the main setting to configure are vccin,vring,vrin and SA, Digital I/O and Analog I/O. If I am not mistaken cyro999 is trying to maintain his core multi by testing lower vcore and setting? Reading the pass few replies and looking at what cyro999 is doing is making me wonder if it is even possible to get lower vcore by playing with them even more myself. I know that I can boot at 1.32 for 4.6 but wasn't even thinking about testing setting at that level, just kept raising vcore/vrin. Since I have a better idea of my own chip limitation, now I am thinking if maybe getting the right setting can help at the lower vcore. It will be a good test to prove to myself that with haswell getting that right setting help or once you hit a certain limit there is nothing you can do but push more voltage through it.

I heard that with ivy bridge at least, latter batches and production were better overclocker, but it seem that with haswell even these latter ones are not overclocking as well and some are actually worse. Makes me worry how future chip might be even more limiting to overclock.
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You guys see the price on these 4770k's at Microcenter???? only 199$

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor

yep! Bought another one hehe
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It looks like we can pretty much agree that the main setting to configure are vccin,vring,vrin and SA, Digital I/O and Analog I/O.
i thought vccin and vrin are the same? or is one of those another name for "vcore"?
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