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Aida is still hotter than real world usage, right?

Oh yeah, max temps for me on Aida blend is 90C. Real world for me is about 55-60C. I throttle on FPU only test.
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It does not give off as much heat as even Prime95. The purpose is to test a maximum real world workload and seeing if it crashes or gives off too much heat. So for the people that only stress by using daily applications, this will be a more stressful substitute. Wherreas synthetics will make my voltage go haywire. There  is no way, after all, that I can survive on 1.385 on air if I do IBT or even prime. But now I'm fine in chess I know I'll be fine on Crysis 3 both in stability and temperature, or for encoding, etc.

Consider it a softer version of Prime.

Which is better to use for a real world workload testing, Chess or RealBench?
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Which is better to use for a real world workload testing, Chess or RealBench?

I have not used Realbench. Having said that, if you fail chess, I would not call your overclock stable at all.

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I have not used Realbench. Having said that, if you fail chess, I would not call your overclock stable at all.

Download link? I'd like to see how my overclock handles chess.
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I have not used Realbench. Having said that, if you fail chess, I would not call your overclock stable at all.

Agree on that. I have my own experience that when I overclocked to 44 or 45, I can pass RealBench but I will always fail on playing BF3. Only when I will lower the clock to 42, that is when BF3 will become stable. Do you guys experience this?
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People have said BF3 really picks on the CPU stability.

 

As I've said, download Arena 3.0 GUI http://www.playwitharena.com/?Download:Arena_3.0

For the engine, Houdini 3.0 is commercial and the one I use, but you can get the free older version for free (version 1.5a). I can't exactly post a commercial engine on here so I'll link you to the free one. wink.gif

 

http://www.chess.com/download/view/houdini15

 

 

A google search will net you the download even if my links are faulty.

For the purpose of stressing, you can set "time per move" to say, 3600 seconds, meaning test ends after 3600 seconds. Or set to infinite and stop it when you want to. You can also benchmark with chess, because it's a pure CPU workload and is great for picking out differences in speed across uncore/core multipliers.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZJLrBAiCN0

Above is a short guide on how to set everything up. You probably won't need it though. Only need to listen to the first half for stressing.

 

So as I've said... My personal experience is, if you fail chess, your CPU is not stable. You need to change those settings, it's not like Prime where you can fail Prime but be 100% stable when not using Prime.

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People have said BF3 really picks on the CPU stability.

As I've said, download Arena 3.0 GUI http://www.playwitharena.com/?Download:Arena_3.0

For the engine, Houdini 3.0 is commercial and the one I use, but you can get the free older version for free (version 1.5a). I can't exactly post a commercial engine on here so I'll link you to the free one. wink.gif


http://www.chess.com/download/view/houdini15


A google search will net you the download even if my links are faulty.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZJLrBAiCN0
Above is a short guide on how to set everything up. You probably won't need it though. Only need to listen to the first half for stressing.

So as I've said... My personal experience is, if you fail chess, your CPU is not stable. You need to change those settings, it's not like Prime where you can fail Prime but be 100% stable when not using Prime.

Thanks, I'll try it out.
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Remember this series of charts? The top one is from chess. :) It's where I got all the uncore data from primarily... that and Cinebench. Notice the performance dent when I lowered my uncore drastically.

 

I'm on 1.385v. I'm playing around with 1.4. I won't survive with IBT or Linpack or even Prime on air. The thermals are too far off, and I can't use that to test for stability, whereas Chess would just be a notch or two above a very CPU heavy game or encoding. Remember my issue with adaptive voltage seemingly not ever being turned off not matter what I did? Will, at least THIS test won't nuke my CPU with ridiculous amounts of voltage during stress.

 

Oh, and I like chess.

It's a fun game. biggrin.gif


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How long should i be running it to find a somewhat stable system? 5h? Did a 5 min run and 65c peak at 4.5ghz.
 
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How long should i be running it? Did a 5 min run and 65c peak at 4.5ghz.

It's like the Prime95 question, how long should we run it? Lol. My experience is, first 10-30 minutes is a decent indicator of whether your overclock is heading in the right direction. But yadeyadeeda, only you can decide how stable is stable enough for you, etc, etc.

 

I've been thinking, now I did a video on stressing with chess I might do a video on how to overclock Haswell... Just for fun. thumb.gif

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