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Exactly!!!! Or this sudden influx of batch questions....I've been to many different Haswell threads, on many different forums, and what I've gathered is this: It is seriously a silicon lottery. Just because you have the same batch # as a spectacular overclocking CPU, it doesn't mean that yours is going to perform the same way.

This leads back to the main thing we've all learned about Haswell - Every chip is different....

People need to break their ways of thinking when it comes to overclocking. Haswell is extremely different from anything in the past. The fact that we have to play with so many voltages and such. I welcome the change as we are no longer board dependent for our overclocks with the change to the FIVR being on die and such. Another thing. people need to stop complaining that haswell is so much hotter. Well duh it's hotter. When you take something that used to be on the mobo and add it to the CPU, of course it will get hotter. And the glue that intel uses... I won't go into that though. I'm seriously considering bare die cooling with EK's bare die cooling kit for my block.. Mmm, bare die.
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Can someone - preferably with ASUS board - check their cache volts and compare what you set them in BIOS? I've got this issue that whatever I set and in Manual or Adaptive mode, I get an + offset of 0.045v always. So 1.22v turns into 1.265v and so on in HWInfo.

I can't remember this being the case earlier, am I going mad or others seeing this? I initially thought this was due to SVID being on but it's not.
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Without reading thru all 592 pages ..... has anyone played with RoG RealBench to see how it compares with the tried and true stressing standards ?
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Realbench got a new version, ver. 2 beta.
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Yup, that's what I ran 2nite ..... finished assembling loop yesterday and fingers too sore from cutting tube and twisting fittings to do any sleeving smile.gif Started playingg with OC for Schlitz and Giggles

Did a few short runs at 4.0 and 4.2 to gauge temps, then jumped to 4.5

1st attempt at 4.5 Ghz and 1.25 went nowhere.... 1.3 worked fine (62-62-56-54)

2nd at 4.6 and 1.325 didn't cut it.... 1.3625 did (73-73-67-65)....That's all I was looking for so then bumped the Mushkies to 2400 ... requires 1.37 (75-74-69-65)

Didn't fiddle much ....just multiplier and Vcore, nuttin else changed. Loop just filled w/ DW to flush..... will take down loop after turkey day, gonna make some few slight piping adjustments, clean the blocks, reassemble and add coolant....then will take a real shot at getting lower temps.

Was just wondering how close RealBench performed as a determiner of stability next to the "ole standards"
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Sounds like a little drama going here. thinking.gif Anyways, lawson67, if anyone in their right minds would just jump at to that kind of voltage (without a smidget of research) shouldn't be attempting an overclock anyways, or even owing a PC! Darkwizzie put his and many others' knowledge into his guide. So it's not like he's saying "hey. do this or that and follow every last detail", because this chip is a breed of its own. What works for some, may not work for others. Check out some you tube videos on overclocking this CPU and see what you get. Almost guarantee you that it won't work 100% for you. I know it didn't with mine. The guide has been useful in many ways. I had to learn the hard way myself by being hardheaded and not totally reading and UNDERSTANDING what was being provided. but back to the research aspect.. go to the intel website and research these CPU's. It'll tell you all you need to know about what's "safe" and whatnot. Yes the name of the website speaks for itself (overclock.net, there's always people who will push the boundaries of "safe" smile.gif Everyone should do that. Funny thing is.. do a goodle search on overclocking Haswell and see what pops up.. guaranteed either this thread or that toms hardware dirty overclock thread. But I'd suggest (if you want to actually do it properly), don't use that thread.
Edited by Scotty Mac - 11/26/13 at 6:52pm
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Yep reall y all the drama for a simple question if a certain voltage is safe! Darkwizzie has put a great guide together Thanks!
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Right, later tonight I'm going to get my 4770k back out of the box and try again.

I'm half praying to find a way to be at least 4.4ghz stable without throttling, and half praying that I can't find a single stable overclockable frequency so I have an excuse to RMA this sucker. tongue.gif

Edit: is the lowest uncore you can run without fractionally hindering performance 34x (for 4770k)?
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Right, later tonight I'm going to get my 4770k back out of the box and try again.

I'm half praying to find a way to be at least 4.4ghz stable without throttling, and half praying that I can't find a single stable overclockable frequency so I have an excuse to RMA this sucker. tongue.gif

Edit: is the lowest uncore you can run without fractionally hindering performance 34x (for 4770k)?

No, but nobody tests uncore under that because you don't get anything by setting uncore that low. Setting uncore below stock isn't going to get you higher core. Of course, there is a performance decrease anytime you lower uncore, it just builds up as you lower it more and more. It's still not that measurable but due to the fact that there's nothing to be gained by setting it under stock, we keep it at stock minimum.

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Can someone - preferably with ASUS board - check their cache volts and compare what you set them in BIOS? I've got this issue that whatever I set and in Manual or Adaptive mode, I get an + offset of 0.045v always. So 1.22v turns into 1.265v and so on in HWInfo.

I can't remember this being the case earlier, am I going mad or others seeing this? I initially thought this was due to SVID being on but it's not.

You could always set a negative offset for the amount of the difference and see if that helps....

I've noticed a similar effect on my MSI Gaming Edition board (GD65)....
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