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How many here, as overclockers/powerusers, feel that Haswell was worth getting?

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Me and Belial definately, Haswell @4.5ghz is as fast as Ivy@5ghz in x264 so all good there. There's no way i'd be clocking an ivy to 5.1-5.3 on air to match the kind of numbers i'm getting now, without a particularly great chip (talking ~1.35vcore for 4.7)

The IMC is also a great step up, being able to run RAM clocks in the high 2k's to even 3k 24/7 is awesome
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I have a strange Problem .... frown.gif
When i set vrin manually (even @ 1,8v) sometimes my PC wont Start....it begins to Start and than baam restart before the BIOS Logo came....and than it say overclock failure...settings are 100% stable !!!!!...even when i restart my PC in windows it shows that failure....its not every Boot but 1:10...
Can someone help me pls frown.gif

I had this problem and asked in the thread i think 2 other in this thread had the same issue. Way way back in like the first 100 page of the thread or so. It happens whenever I overclock and boot up after a complete shut down or hibernate. Someone suggested and I try it ,and it worked, was to unplug your psu cable from the computer. I have a switch on my psu and I flip it to turn on/off. I don't know if there is some kind of power draw that is doing it but unplugging it helps. Regular sleep seem fine though, only booting from a complete shut down or hibernate.
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How many here, as overclockers/powerusers, feel that Haswell was worth getting?

Not worth it to me, unless you get lucky with silicon lottery. They run so hot and overclock poorly. Sad that consumers are forced to disassemble(delid) to get better temps because Intel is to incompetent.
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Here are my settings below. I'm still randomly crashing with Crysis 2 (bsod 124) I know my overclock isn't 100% stable. My goal is to get x47 stable and then possibly try for x48.

10 loops of x264
1 hr of Real Bench 2.0

x47
vcore 1.33
cache x34
cache v 1.2
vccin 1.9

mem 1600 1.5

Should I just keep upping the vcore?
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Doesn't the chart the OP has contradict that? The higher overclocks have higher VIDs. Just curious.

That chart doesn't map the voltage that the chips were running BEFORE any overclocking took place, only the vcore that was needed to reach that speed. thumb.gif
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I use my pc for gaming and do a bit of encoding and rendering on it and I am happy. My last chip was a 3770k but sold the system to a friend because, I know this is stupid, I wanted as many 6g sata connection as I can get. Again, I work with video/graphic so wanted that speed. Before that I was running Q6600 and I still have 2 Dell Xeon workstation working as slaves for heavy heavy rendering and encoding.

I spend the first 2-3 month overclocking and stress testing this chip and honestly was miserable, I like learning about it but at the same time just testing and stress testing was not leaving me time to use the computer for what I built it for. Which was to game, watch video, test files. I did the same thing with ivy bridge and despite passing p95 and occt 12 hours each, I still BSOD doing the most mundane thing like watching a netflix/youtube/xbmc video and then going back and test all over only to BSOD again.

So now I am going with the screw wasting my time, I will test on my term and learn a little while having fun with my system. Now that I learn much more what each setting does and how they work I am retesting everything. My test now is, 3 run of cinebench,xtu bench,geekbench, x 264, maxxmem, and 1 run of pc mark 8 and 3dmark. Then 1 hours stress using xtu and Dark's chess program. Just downloaded realbench and would like to try that. If i feel it 10 loop each of xtu bench and x264 which I haven't done yet. I been running 4.6 this way and been stable with no bsod for over a month in gaming and rendering. I even started testing 4.7 and stable in game but not liking the voltage and heat. However, since I know my chip better, I been playing with setting since Wednesday and surprisingly I am getting the chip to boot and run at lower vcore with a few changes to cache voltage and vccin setting. Even got my memory to oc up to 2666 at 1.68 volt and extremely loose timing but running everything with memory at xmp 1866 for 24/7 but will likely be using 2400 and 1.65 volt once I feel the system is stable to my liking. I haven't start the traditonal testing at these lower volt yet, I like to leave them for about a week first before I run any test. I been gaming on these setting and so far so good. I know what vcore is needed to get my chip to boot and what vcore to pass stress test. However I am seeing that I do not need those vcore to just game or do my work, if I can get lower vcore and temp and still be stable enough for my need then I rather have lower vcore and temp.

I already spent months since haswell release testing my chip so I feel I know my chip well enough and the number to try. I am not jumping into things, I followed Dark's guide as well as Sin, linus, and Asus. At this point, I just want a stable everyday system that is not too hot or loud.

Most of my testing consist of playing games while watching youtube on one screen, wife and kids watch netflix or a movie on xmbc on the tv and backing up my drive, moving family photos/videos around or uploading/downloading to the cloud, vpn into my renderfarm and connect to my vm server at work while encoding, editing or rendering a file on another. If my computer can do all of that and not crash, then I say I am stable. I won't have the stress test to validate but I know my chip capability. I do feel that I am a bit of a poweruser in term of how I use my computer. Long long test but much more fun than looking at my computer for 12 hours doing nothing. If i can list that as a stable test I would have lolzx.

Oh I will submit a new result, when I do want I want to do a long test. I do understand that these stress test program does serve a purpose and the information can help people. I just don't want to sit around looking at the screen and talk to the wife for 12 hours rolleyes.gif
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Here are my settings below. I'm still randomly crashing with Crysis 2 (bsod 124) I know my overclock isn't 100% stable. My goal is to get x47 stable and then possibly try for x48.

10 loops of x264
1 hr of Real Bench 2.0

x47
vcore 1.33
cache x34
cache v 1.2
vccin 1.9

mem 1600 1.5

Should I just keep upping the vcore?

I'd see if you still got 124's @1.35. Maybe try +0.05 on digital and analog io, but that's a pretty blind shot.


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Not worth it to me, unless you get lucky with silicon lottery. They run so hot and overclock poorly. Sad that consumers are forced to disassemble(delid) to get better temps because Intel is to incompetent.

I disagree. Delid thing is an issue, yea, it sucks, whatever. But the chips are not that hot, you can reasonably run ~1.3-1.4v depending on cooling and i5 or i7 (i5 @1.4v is equal to i7 at like 1.33 in terms of power draw and temps..)

I'd definately buy higher end cooling, like a 240/280 rad clc and four fans if i could, but here in UK, i5 costs £170, a d3h costs £105 - decent RAM kit will set you back £80. That's £355 for cpu/mobo/ram - a cooler like a silver arrow is only £50 in comparison, and allows you to approach max OC possible on the chip, within 100-200mhz.

It's not ideal, but it's workable, and it's definately a big step up from Ivy for some uses, and a small step up for essentially everything else.
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ah it's a beta... i think i'll wait for the ROG ASUS site to be updated though i hope they do it soon! smile.gif
just a bit uneasy downloading from other sites, i'm not familiar with necrosan at all

That is from the ROG site from what I see. I think he just gave you the direct link they give.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?40057-RealBench-v2.0-Public-Beta!-amp-Leaderboard&country=&status=
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I feel the same as others who bring up the benefits. The Z87 drew me in, along with a 20% performance boost that would last me until e-Haswell. I brought up the discussion because a lot of people have given real snide remarks when the learn I went to Haswell because "haswell isn't for desktops!" I just can't think in the mindset of "11% increase isn't worth it over Ivy!" when Z87 brings so much to the table, and when I'm done with it Haswell would make for a lovely little media box/spare computer chip. :o 

 

I don't like the stereotype of "real over clockers would never buy Haswell!" 

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