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There was some Conroe CPU E8xxx back when Q6600 was same price as it. I took the Q6600 figuring chess would help boost up its use, and then I can OC it. OC didn't turn out too well due to crappy mobo/acts of god/luck/my conservative voltages/bad heatsink, but it was a good run. DDR2 800, lol.

Hey now! Before you laugh at DDR2 800, look at my siggy.. and look at Old Blue. I started off with the E6600, (with DDR2 667 4gb) but I traded that for what I have in that rig now. but I'll tell you this.. she's still a kickin' away. and for a mobo and all parts still going.. says a lot smile.gif I can still upgrade that rig a little more.. but why? lol
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Yes, I felt you were offended too easily because the original post was not offensive in any way.

 

You asked: How many here, as overclockers/powerusers, feel that Haswell was worth getting?

 

I said: 'One average your CPU performance increases only a bit compared to the older Gens when both are overclocked but of course Haswell has the new chipset and adaptive voltage mode. It stands to reason why not putting your CPU under the highest level of voltage 24/7 might elongate its lifespan. I obviously cannot prove this because I don't personally have 100+ Haswells to statistically prove this but it makes sense.'

 

You said: 'This doesn't really have much to do with what I said or explain anything since all that is implied.

 

I said: 'Then what exactly are you looking for when you asked that question if you're not looking for the answer?'

 

You said: 'I don't think you read it correctly because that didn't answer it at all.'

 


How is this talking down upon you in any way, shape, or form? Especially in the first post. You replied twice without bothering to specify what exactly you're looking for, saying how I just don't get it. The first reply to my original post should've been, 'this is what I was asking... (insert info here)', not 'you don't get it' x2. Past that, I've checked out already.

 

Since you were talking about misunderstanding, here is what I was thinking: By only talking about how I am completely off base without explaining why, ending with a single sentence reply, I read this as having a rude attitude. Saying 'you don't get it' by itself is something I'd expect in a religion debate gone haywire. In case you were curious about what I thought, anyways.


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Hey now! Before you laugh at DDR2 800, look at my siggy.. and look at Old Blue. I started off with the E6600, (with DDR2 667 4gb) but I traded that for what I have in that rig now. but I'll tell you this.. she's still a kickin' away. and for a mobo and all parts still going.. says a lot smile.gif I can still upgrade that rig a little more.. but why? lol

My old rig is still alive, I sold it to a friend. Yeah, those parts still allll workkkk. But it's old and not so fast compared to today. :thumbsdow

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Ok so after spending a lot of time reading this thread I decided to stick to 4.4Ghz.
I didn't have to touch uncore or mess around with anything really.

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Is there any point in leaving power saving modes ON for CPU if vcore is set on manual fix voltage?
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My old rig is still alive, I sold it to a friend. Yeah, those parts still allll workkkk. But it's old and not so fast compared to today. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Maybe not, but At least the internet is still as fast on mine LOL. Windows 8 was supposed to have faster boot up times. Well, as time wore on since I got windows 8 (January) My boot up times have decreased. I'm pretty sure I can't run todays games on highest settings.. but it'll still game smile.gif I believe the only other thing I can upgrade (without changing the PSU) is the CPU. But have ya checked the prices on those things lately? Rediculous (the last time I checked which was about 6 months ago). And the RAM.. sheesh.. same thing. It seems these older parts are more costly than ever. But now it's sporting (my not so favorite) the Q9500. As long as she's still kicking.. I'll just keep maintaining her incase I blow up this Haswell build. Which.. never know.
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Yes, I felt you were offended too easily because the original post was not offensive in any way.

 

You asked: How many here, as overclockers/powerusers, feel that Haswell was worth getting?

 

I said: 'One average your CPU performance increases only a bit compared to the older Gens when both are overclocked but of course Haswell has the new chipset and adaptive voltage mode. It stands to reason why not putting your CPU under the highest level of voltage 24/7 might elongate its lifespan. I obviously cannot prove this because I don't personally have 100+ Haswells to statistically prove this but it makes sense.'

 

You said: 'This doesn't really have much to do with what I said or explain anything since all that is implied.

 

I said: 'Then what exactly are you looking for when you asked that question if you're not looking for the answer?'

 

You said: 'I don't think you read it correctly because that didn't answer it at all.'

 


How is this talking down upon you in any way, shape, or form? Especially in the first post. You replied twice without bothering to specify what exactly you're looking for, saying how I just don't get it. The first reply to my original post should've been, 'this is what I was asking... (insert info here)', not 'you don't get it' x2. Past that, I've checked out already.

 

 

Post #2 attempts to explain what I meant by Post #1. You seemed to understand that because you did respond with more detail. Your first post was an autopilot post. 

 

 

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It stands to reason, that if performance doesn't increase that much, it's not worth an upgrade but makes more sense if you're starting a new build.

 

YW.

 

 

 

 

Signing something with "You're Welcome" when you didn't even answer the correct question is actually really condescending. I followed up by asking you not to talk down to me and even saying please, but your response is this:

 

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Pro tip: If you want people to be enthusiastic about helping you, you should tell them why you think they are not addressing the issue you're talking about instead of being snide.

 

You mentioned 20% performance boost. I think you overestimate the performance gains. What I said was not the same as what you said to the dot. YOU are the one talking down to ME. I've been patrolling 6200 posts in this thread since its inception to try to help people.

 

 

At this point I had done nothing but point out the misunderstanding (giving you the benefit of the doubt that you'd figure it out) and make a polite request for the conversation to change its tone. You responded by labeling me with a rather negative word and then bringing up something I'd said to another person so you could describe it as wrong, followed by telling me exactly what I was doing (implying that I was disrespecting you), and then finished off with reminding me of how helpful you have been to everyone in this thread. 

 

 

Really?

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Ok so after spending a lot of time reading this thread I decided to stick to 4.4Ghz.
I didn't have to touch uncore or mess around with anything really.

http://valid.canardpc.com/i19mge

Congrats! I couldn't get to 4.4 without being over 1.3v. When I get a little more brave.. I'll go fir it.. and then some. Just maybe I'll hit the "avereage OC" for this chip. But I'm sure it'll be at a really high voltage.
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What I am saying is, after the second post I checked out. I read the first two posts as brusque and meant to offend. So after the second post I responded accordingly. If you wrote the first two posts purely to save time or something, no offense originally intended then you are right, this is mostly a misunderstanding. Otherwise, no. But I've re-read the first two posts and I still assume it to be brusque. If I assumed at the time, that the first two comments were an extreme attempt to save time to the point you can't even explain why exactly I was wrong, then this conversation wouldn't come to this. But honestly, if I am totally off base then do explain to me why instead of just saying I'm wrong.

 

Back to the performance issue: My stance doesn't change: A 20% advantage with same exact clock speed across Sandy vs Haswell doesn't surprise me. A 20% winning margin of an OCed Sandy vs Haswell DOES interest me.

 

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Congrats! I couldn't get to 4.4 without being over 1.3v. When I get a little more brave.. I'll go fir it.. and then some. Just maybe I'll hit the "avereage OC" for this chip. But I'm sure it'll be at a really high voltage.

Well, the 'average voltage' used for Vcore was like, 1.29something volts. I rounded it up to 1.3v. This average is like 3 weeks old though.

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Well, the 'average voltage' used for Vcore was like, 1.29something volts. I rounded it up to 1.3v. This average is like 3 weeks old though.

Yeah... Being a noob to OC'ing (to this extent) I'm just paranoid about going over the 1.30v. Currently I'm at 1.240v @ 4.3ghz. I haven't posted my stuff yet, because as I posted the other day.. I got a random x124 with doing minimal work. Been fine since tho. I haven't even touched the uncore yet. Right now.. running on dynamic core mode, with adaptive voltage (which kicked the uncore up to x38) also on adaptive voltage. Another reason I haven't posted smile.gif I'll post when I finally get this all down. Here's a question tho. If I do the uncore now.. would I have to change it back to where I had it (x33 @ 1.150v) after upping the core multi?
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