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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

If you want some performance ram at a decent price, look into the G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz C10 ram. I've heard, depending on the kit you get, that you can clock it down to C9 without changing the voltage. If you are just gaming and not benching. Don't bother buying better RAM unless you are using 1333Mhz ram...
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Originally Posted by Doug2507 View Post

Think that'll be hit and miss with that kit. I certainly couldn't drop it down to C9 out of the box, cmd rate no prob though. And with them selling the same kit but rated at cas9 for a few quid more i'd be quite surprised
lol. Mine says otherwise. tongue.gif

That's what I said. D:
post #6342 of 19539
Hey guys! new to the forums wasn't sure where to post this, so i thought this would be the best place!

I just recently built a new computer with these specs/hardware:

Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA LGA 1150 Intel Z87
CPU: Intel i7 4770k
RAM: G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60
Power Supply: Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300 1300W
GPU: Dual (Crossfire) XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
Case: Thermaltake Armor Revo


I am having some issues here with overclocking (First time overclocker)
The motherboard bios comes with this thing called CPU level up which what i read on it, is an auto overclocker u pick either 4.2,4.4 or 4.6 and it will auto change settings for you to get those speeds!

So i thought hey great i dont have to learn very much. I tryed 4.6 first and the computer booted and windows ran, it was operational for about 5-8 minutes before it BSOD.
So i thought maybe thats a bit to high. Went to 4.4 and the computer ran great, i could play BF4 and no crashes... i then ran and tryed to play League of Legends and it was running great till about 10-13 minutes into the game it Crashed and BSOD..

So i was like dang set it to 4.2 and was like this should be it.. And now i decided to get Prime95 and test stuff before i just jump into games well i tested it at 4.2 and after about 6 minutes of running it BSOD so it means it not stable right?

I have a feeling this is RAM issue and not CPU OC issue?

My mobo auto set my ram at 1333 MHz but my ram is issued at 2400 MHz so i oblivously want to run it at that. CPU level up changed the 1333 MHz To 2400 MHz so i was like thats great!

But it seems if i set my ram to 1333 MHz and OC my CPU to 4.6 its stable no crashes etc..


Question is: How do i get my ram to run at 2400 MHz with a decent stable CPU OC? im thinking 4.2-4.4 or is it better to downclock the RAM to OC the CPU or whats the deal here? i tryed 1600 MHz and that was unstable as well.






Another side question is: my idle temps on the CPU are anywhere from 28-38 and when i was running Prime95 was at 80 degrees is this normal or is that to hot?
post #6343 of 19539
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Originally Posted by Critizin View Post

Hey guys! new to the forums wasn't sure where to post this, so i thought this would be the best place!

I just recently built a new computer with these specs/hardware:

Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA LGA 1150 Intel Z87
CPU: Intel i7 4770k
RAM: G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60
Power Supply: Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300 1300W
GPU: Dual (Crossfire) XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
Case: Thermaltake Armor Revo


I am having some issues here with overclocking (First time overclocker)
The motherboard bios comes with this thing called CPU level up which what i read on it, is an auto overclocker u pick either 4.2,4.4 or 4.6 and it will auto change settings for you to get those speeds!

So i thought hey great i dont have to learn very much. I tryed 4.6 first and the computer booted and windows ran, it was operational for about 5-8 minutes before it BSOD.
So i thought maybe thats a bit to high. Went to 4.4 and the computer ran great, i could play BF4 and no crashes... i then ran and tryed to play League of Legends and it was running great till about 10-13 minutes into the game it Crashed and BSOD..

So i was like dang set it to 4.2 and was like this should be it.. And now i decided to get Prime95 and test stuff before i just jump into games well i tested it at 4.2 and after about 6 minutes of running it BSOD so it means it not stable right?

I have a feeling this is RAM issue and not CPU OC issue?

My mobo auto set my ram at 1333 MHz but my ram is issued at 2400 MHz so i oblivously want to run it at that. CPU level up changed the 1333 MHz To 2400 MHz so i was like thats great!

But it seems if i set my ram to 1333 MHz and OC my CPU to 4.6 its stable no crashes etc..


Question is: How do i get my ram to run at 2400 MHz with a decent stable CPU OC? im thinking 4.2-4.4 or is it better to downclock the RAM to OC the CPU or whats the deal here? i tryed 1600 MHz and that was unstable as well.






Another side question is: my idle temps on the CPU are anywhere from 28-38 and when i was running Prime95 was at 80 degrees is this normal or is that to hot?

Please read the first page of this thread....biggrin.gif
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Donno why it double posted. i am reading the thread now and will try some of that stuff! Thank you.
post #6345 of 19539
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

If you want some performance ram at a decent price, look into the G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz C10 ram. I've heard, depending on the kit you get, that you can clock it down to C9 without changing the voltage. If you are just gaming and not benching. Don't bother buying better RAM unless you are using 1333Mhz ram...


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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post


That's what I said. D:

Lol, great minds think alike then! Sorry, was just a quick skim through the posts after the great intel/amd debate! tongue.gifthumb.gif
post #6346 of 19539
Thanks for this thread, Darkwzzie. I've been referring it to everyone who needs help overclocking Haswell....the amount of people who cry "bbbut, b-b-b-ut my friend's i5-4670K needed way less than volts than me - what am I doing wrong?"

Your stats are wonderful, too. I'll be adding mine here in 15 minutes after this 12 hour stress test is over, biggrin.gif

Submission:

Username: ikjadoon
CPU Model: i5-4670K
Core Multiplier: 45x
CPU VID: 1.370.
Vcore: 1.36925 (average)
Input Voltage: 1.900V
Uncore Multiplier: 40x
Uncore Voltage: 1.200V
Cooling Solution: Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM
Stability Test: AIDA64 - 12 hours
Batch Number: L313B434
Ram Speed: 2200MHz - 9-12-11-32 @ 1.70V (2x4GB)

Proof:
Edited by ikjadoon - 12/1/13 at 2:27pm
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Alrite ive been messing around with settings manually and noticed u guys said to downclock 2400 Mhz ram to 1600 because at higher overclocks it doesnt really work that well.

My question is now how much performance increase do you generally see in ram from going from 1600 to 2400 and is it still better to have a clock speed of 4.6 then a ram speed of 2400?

I also read that prime95 isnt really a great way to stress test ur load..

im using this machine for gaming should i just run games and if it doesnt crash im golden?



On a side note!

What are some safe CPU temps underload? like say im playing BF4 is 60-70 degrees alrite?

When i run prime 95 im getting up to like 80 degrees?

If im getting 60-70 while playing BF4 should i try to overclock my CPU more? im at 4.4 Ghz right now should i go for 4.6?
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Originally Posted by Critizin View Post

Alrite ive been messing around with settings manually and noticed u guys said to downclock 2400 Mhz ram to 1600 because at higher overclocks it doesnt really work that well.

My question is now how much performance increase do you generally see in ram from going from 1600 to 2400 and is it still better to have a clock speed of 4.6 then a ram speed of 2400?

I also read that prime95 isnt really a great way to stress test ur load..

im using this machine for gaming should i just run games and if it doesnt crash im golden?



On a side note!

What are some safe CPU temps underload? like say im playing BF4 is 60-70 degrees alrite?

When i run prime 95 im getting up to like 80 degrees?

If im getting 60-70 while playing BF4 should i try to overclock my CPU more? im at 4.4 Ghz right now should i go for 4.6?

1. Depends on the application whether or not it will benefit from the high ram speeds.
2. Temps are up to you, as long as they are lower than 95C, you will be fine
3. Don't test with Prime95. It shows temps that you arne't likely to see. Test with x264. Read the OP and get it from there.
4. I personally test with x264 and if I am stable for a few passes then I test out some games and if I BSOD, then I add more vcore or whatever depending on the BSOD.
5. You need to state all of your voltages before we can tell you to move forward. You are approaching your limit with your cooling solution (or chip depending on your voltages) I personally think 60c-70c is fine for gaming, but the lower the better imo.
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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

1. Depends on the application whether or not it will benefit from the high ram speeds.
2. Temps are up to you, as long as they are lower than 95C, you will be fine
3. Don't test with Prime95. It shows temps that you arne't likely to see. Test with x264. Read the OP and get it from there.
4. I personally test with x264 and if I am stable for a few passes then I test out some games and if I BSOD, then I add more vcore or whatever depending on the BSOD.
5. You need to state all of your voltages before we can tell you to move forward. You are approaching your limit with your cooling solution (or chip depending on your voltages) I personally think 60c-70c is fine for gaming, but the lower the better imo.

The only voltage i changed was the vcore 1.25 is what im at.

Currently at 4.4 GHz with 1600 MHz Ram
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Originally Posted by Critizin View Post

The only voltage i changed was the vcore 1.25 is what im at.

Currently at 4.4 GHz with 1600 MHz Ram

Read the OP.
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