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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think I've yet to experience having too high of a vrin cause a BSOD. I'm pretty sure one of the methods Doug suggested to me was to throw the vrin as high as I felt comfortable with and work my vcore up from there to try to get a 5 giggles validation.

I like to giggle too.

 

We can test this right now. I'll just revert to 4.2ghz and use the same 2.15v Vrin.

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I like to giggle too.

We can test this right now. I'll just revert to 4.2ghz and use the same 2.15v Vrin.

But do you like to giggle 5 times and validate it? That is the true test of manliness. Which, apparently I am not manly enough because no matter the voltage (I feel safe with) I can't get a 5 giggles validation.
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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think I've yet to experience having too high of a vrin cause a BSOD. I'm pretty sure one of the methods Doug suggested to me was to throw the vrin as high as I felt comfortable with and work my vcore up from there to try to get a 5 giggles validation.

I got my 5g verification earlier, the hardest part by far was making the "new" and downgraded version of CPU-Z read my sensors properly so that i could validate
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ASUS owner and talking about VRIN, some people smile.gif Just call it VCCIN and/or Input Voltage .. maybe double check, it's in HWInfo unless your mobo's sensor is lacking it for some weird reason.

Haha sorry smile.gif Yep I've got it now.
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That seems very odd. Are you sure you had enough vcore?

I've used 1.2vcore with 2.0 vrin before. Likewise; 1.78 threw a couple of 101's quite quickly when i tested it with 1.27vid

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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think I've yet to experience having too high of a vrin cause a BSOD. I'm pretty sure one of the methods Doug suggested to me was to throw the vrin as high as I felt comfortable with and work my vcore up from there to try to get a 5 giggles validation.

Yeah it's interesting hey, but I'm stable through 15 passes of x264 with that Vcore. The only thing I changed to cause the BSOD was a bump in VRIN. Ill keep tinkering around and see if I come up with anything replicable for you all
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But do you like to giggle 5 times and validate it? That is the true test of manliness. Which, apparently I am not manly enough because no matter the voltage (I feel safe with) I can't get a 5 giggles validation.

As long as I giggle 4.6 times or more at a time, I'm happy. :drum:

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Cool, keep us posted man. Whatever it is it sounds like it just needs a small tweak to sort it out. thumb.gif

Will do. biggrin.gif I'm leaving the rig in four weeks for a while, so if anything happens, hopefully it happens within 4 weeks, lol.
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This is why I think stress testing for too long is pointless now. I don't know but it seem these tests are less reliable now, or it is just me. Best test is and will be to use the computer.

Interesting point...technically, there is an off-off-off chance that it is BF4, as noted in this thread (no overclocking by user yet got the 101 and 124 BSOD). Like I said, my first BSOD, even after putting ~160 hours in BF4. Who knows? Maybe I'm just being hopeful, haha.
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Good to see more and more people coming in and saying BF4 is more demanding that your usual stress tests people advocate all the time. I think it's been said but I still confuse the terms people use, but I believe 101 is related to CPU Input Voltage..

I wonder if it's not because BF4 is more stressful, but more sensitive. I mean, don't overclocks increases the # of "minor errors"? Like floating point precision or whatever? So, maybe BF4 is just very sensitive to those errors? Unsure...
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I know about Linpack. Your suggestions are synthetics. That stuff has been tested and documented. But I have not witnessed a normal application that ups voltage by 0.1v or more under normal conditions.

But as I mentioned, screenshots from a few people can verify this.

Shucks, I don't have any screenshots (deleted the stupid CSV output file), but I ran HWINFO in the background while playing BF4. VCore max was at 1.370V (exactly what I entered in my BIOS) even after ~6 hours of multiplayer on BF4.
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VCore max was at 1.370V (exactly what I entered in my BIOS) even after ~6 hours of multiplayer on BF4.

Perhaps you are reading VID?

Vcore is not supposed to be what you set in the bios - it's supposed to be ~0.02v higher and only updates in specific steps
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Perhaps you are reading VID?

Vcore is not supposed to be what you set in the bios - it's supposed to be ~0.02v higher and only updates in specific steps

Hmm...I know VID only as the stock voltage for your chip. Mine was something like 1.088V...

Really? It's always ~0.02V higher? Huh, I've never seen it above 1.370V, during gaming or stress testing. I'm reading using HWINFO64, latest version, portable zip....should I be using CPU-Z or something else?

Discrete steps: yes, I think it does that.
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I think it depends on the sensors that your board shows - hwinfo is amazing on gigabyte


hwinfo is not working on my Gigabyte Z87X UD3H, the program stop at Checking Intel Management Engine and after a few sec the Not Responding pop out, I have the latest BIOS and and already updated Intel Management Engine...
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Hmm...I know VID only as the stock voltage for your chip. Mine was something like 1.088V...

Really? It's always ~0.02V higher? Huh, I've never seen it above 1.370V, during gaming or stress testing. I'm reading using HWINFO64, latest version, portable zip....should I be using CPU-Z or something else?

Discrete steps: yes, I think it does that.

Hwinfo displays CPU VID, and then lower down it displays Vcore
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hwinfo is not working on my Gigabyte Z87X UD3H, the program stop at Checking Intel Management Engine and after a few sec the Not Responding pop out, I have the latest BIOS and and already updated Intel Management Engine...

Works for me (same board, f7 bios)
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