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When in fixed/manual mode, Asus mobo's vary the vcore voltage based on load anyway. This is different to Gigabyte and MSI mobo's apparently.

I'm really glad that i chose gigabyte before this was really understood, but their boards allow you to precisely set a load vcore and also drops on idle. I couldn't ask for much more.






..aside from the ability to see SA/DIO/AIO or have uncore be set >40x and still drop on idle
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I'm running with fixed Vcore and adaptive Vring. All C states and EIST to auto. Balanced user profile in Windows (5% min processor).

My Vcore drops down to 0.016v at idle, my Vring will drop to 0.016v too if I set min frequency to a low enough value (currently I just have min freq = max freq).

Can't complain really. What sort of effect does having C states enabled produce in terms of performance?

That's interesting Cyro, is the lack of voltage readouts due to a specific sensor implementation?
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Ok, I guess it's finally time to get my results added....biggrin.gif

Username: blaze2210
CPU Model: 4670K
Core Multiplier: 46
CPU VID: 1.425
Vcore: 1.43
Input Voltage: 1.930
Uncore Multiplier: 40
Uncore Voltage: 1.233
Cooling Solution: Corsair H100i w/ GC Extreme compound
Stability Test: half hour of XTU, 10 passes of LinX, 4+ hours of Assassin's Creed 4, 6+ hours of Batman Origins, 4+ hours of Crysis 3
Batch Number: (I'll get it when I get home
Ram Speed: 2400mhz

Wow, somebody with a higher VID than me for x46!

 

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Please update me, I went for 4.5 ghz overclock over 4.4:

Username: jrcbandit
CPU Model: 4770K
Core Multiplier: 45x
CPU VID: 1.36 V
Input Voltage: 2.00 V
Uncore Multiplier: 36x
Uncore Voltage: 1.18 V
Cooling Solution: custom loop
Stability Test: Realbench for 2 hours, X264 for 15 passes
Batch Number: same as what I listed
Ram Speed: 2133, 1.57V, 9 11 10 28
Other: +0.135 SA, CPU Analog/Digital IO



I ended up increasing the voltage from 1.355 to 1.36 to get x264 to work for 15 passes.



As you can see, I got a very poor overclocker considering I need 1.36 V compared to people running 45x multiplier at 1.2 V.... I do have the Intel overclocking warranty in case this voltage is not good in the long term.

kk.

JRC, next time make sure HWinfo displays Vcore not VID please.

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Then count your blessings. I'm @ 1.3V for 4.3. frown.gif

Although I did remove all the fan filters and front fan cover and that lowered temps 10~15C. biggrin.gif

Wow. That blows.

 

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Hey guys I just overclocked my cpu to 4.8ghz started at 1.380v it booted up then crashed so now i'm complete stable at 1.42v under water cooling kit I just got yesterday
xspc raystorm ex240 kit and the only highest Temps I got for testing 6hrs was 78c 76c 77c 68c

is this safe for 24/7 use? was playing bf4 early for 4hrs no crash

My opinion is in the OP.

 

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Yeah, just to confirm this is what I see:

Manual mode + C3 enabled = Adaptive with no C states = ~0.7v at idle. Manual mode + C6/C7 enabled = Adaptive mode + C6/C7 enabled = very low volts (no difference from what I see). Manual mode with no C states = volts don't go down.

So now it's just a question.. do I want to use C3 or not lol. I know I don't have issues with this Adaptive stuff raising volts as nothing I do does that, while C3 does introduce slight latency.

It's similar with the power plan in Windows. You can use Performance no problems if you just change the min. processor down to 5%, it will throttle down. There is an improvement (in benches) when I do that compared to simply using Balanced.

Oh dear, I'm not even sure about difference between Cstates/Adaptive... So I turned em' all on.


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I'm running with fixed Vcore and adaptive Vring. All C states and EIST to auto. Balanced user profile in Windows (5% min processor).

My Vcore drops down to 0.016v at idle, my Vring will drop to 0.016v too if I set min frequency to a low enough value (currently I just have min freq = max freq).

Can't complain really. What sort of effect does having C states enabled produce in terms of performance?

That's interesting Cyro, is the lack of voltage readouts due to a specific sensor implementation?

Yea; I can only see the offset that i have set - 0, or positive/negative. No idea what the voltages actually are, or how/if/when the board/cpu is changing them - need multimeter for that
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wow, I'll be keeping an eye on my voltages then for sure. Your turbo voltage is set to...? The reason for the added voltage might be due to a lack of LLC?

I wondering about one thing with voltages..... with VID set in BIOS to 1.38 .... largest VCore I have seen is 1.408 under heavy stress testing .... 1.42 for half a second

However, VID max recorded by HW monitor has climbed as high as 1.47 ..... tho watching closely it's for less than the half second seen above..... never see either number recorded outside of stress testing.

I understand the adaptive setting will let Vcore rise but what's with the VID rise ?
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I wondering about one thing with voltages..... with VID set in BIOS to 1.38 .... largest VCore I have seen is 1.408 under heavy stress testing .... 1.42 for half a second

To the best of my knowledge, the integrated voltage regulator on Haswell will target a value 0.02 above bios vcore setting (which reads as VID for me when manual set) as your load vcore. Seems consistent across low and high vcore, and shows on multimeter.

The vcore software sensor is not accurate in an extreme sens, it's just an approximation. That's part of the reason that it only makes quite large steps - 1.264 to 1.272 for example - it won't show anything between because it's pointless when the sensor isn't that accurate.
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Guide has been updated to reflect new entries to overclocking chart, media/average OC updated. We are one entry away from 100 entries!!! Download link to loop script re-uploaded. 

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For a peace of mind I recommend running x264 looped all night as you sleep once, and if it passes, it's table.

What if i don't want my CPU to turn into a table? biggrin.gif
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What if i don't want my CPU to turn into a table? biggrin.gif

Lol, typo corrected.

 

If you don't want it to turn into a table, then you need to run x95 which is like a hybrid of Prime95 and x264, and x999 and x79 and z87. :drum:

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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
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7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
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Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
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XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
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14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
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Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Guide has been updated to reflect new entries to overclocking chart, media/average OC updated. We are one entry away from 100 entries!!! Download link to loop script re-uploaded. 

Maybe I should actually get a screen shot for you... and you know. Actually be on the chart.
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