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Originally Posted by creos7 View Post

oh i increased mine more aggressively but i ONLY had to touch them when i clocked my RAM to its specs
was running at 1300 (per Darkwizzie's guide), then once I was done with core/uncore i started working on the ram
i set it manually to 2133 9/11/11/2 as rated and voltage at 1.62 (0.02 higher than rated) but i couldn't get this to work until i upped SA/DIO/AIO by 0.150. That's pretty aggressive compared to what you're suggesting.

but bear in mind each system is unique, so don't by me. just telling you what worked for me (i might have been able to come up with tigether SA/DIO/AIO but frankly i'm exhausted from almost like a month of playing with my system tongue.gif)

Personally, I ended up being at 0.080 for the SA, 0.100 for the IA, then 0.080 for the ID....I just recommend smaller increments since our amounts might not be necessary for each chip/overclock situation....biggrin.gif
post #6682 of 19539
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

Personally, I ended up being at 0.080 for the SA, 0.100 for the IA, then 0.080 for the ID....I just recommend smaller increments since our amounts might not be necessary for each chip/overclock situation....biggrin.gif
Totally agree with you, i'm sure i can have tighter values. Your suggestion is sound.
post #6683 of 19539
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Originally Posted by Wihglah View Post

http://valid.canardpc.com/2f0t1l



I'm starting to really like this.

I'm seeing a very linear relationship between volts required and speed:


From 1.1v @4K, I need about 0.035 volts per multiplier.

That is highly interesting. After a few calculations, I found that my 4.2 stable and 4.5 stable are about .105v apart. Sadly, this would mean I'd need about 1.3v for 4.6, which is beyond my comfort zone for my Hyper 212X's heat dissipation capabilities.
post #6684 of 19539
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Originally Posted by creos7 View Post

Darkwizzie,

Could you pls update my OC entry. I believe I experienced some kind of 'burn-in' of the OC. My stable voltages went up and it took me forever to realize that. It started happening during the last step of my OC process when I tried to reliably get my GSkill TridentX to its rated level. Finally I ended up going back to square one only to realize my core/uncore voltages were no longer stable. Here are the new values.

Core X46 @ 1.319V (may be able to make tighter but frankly too tired to play with this anymore, I've lost all desire to try to reach 47 just too exhausted and happy to have a stable system)
CacheRatio x43 @1.243V (again might have a tighter value but too tired to play more)
SA/DIO/AIO +0.150V
DRAM 2133 @1.62V 9/11/11/13

I've tested these with 8 hours of OCCT (I've found this to be the most sensitive test for my own system), several RealBench runs, CineBench runs and XTU runs. Going to do a 20x pass of x264 tonight,

Some benchmark results, don't know how good they are but there it is.
Note that I do not have a dedicated GPU, this is using the integrated CPU GPU, kind of waiting on pricing of the OC 780Ti edition to see if I'll totally splurge on it...

XTU: 1126
CineBench15: 947
RealBench System: 84391, Video Editing: 133678/64s, Encoding 101428/118.19s, OpenGL(IntegratedGPU) 31131/510, Multitasking: 96234/101.627s

I'm going to still run OCCT and x264 for a few more nights just to make sure there are no further regressions.... sooo glad to be done with this (i hope!!)

Thanks.

OCCT is king for stability imo

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post #6685 of 19539
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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

OCCT is king for stability imo

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OCCT, depending on the test you're running, is basically Prime95 or LinX....Any way you cut it, it's still a synthetic test that generates unrealistic levels of heat.... 2cents.gif

At the end of the day, you'll still need to actually use the computer to determine whether or not it's actually stable for your own purposes....I've had OC's that were stable for 8+ hours of Prime, only to crash after 15 minutes of Far Cry 3 on max settings....Just sayin....
post #6686 of 19539
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

OCCT, depending on the test you're running, is basically Prime95 or LinX....Any way you cut it, it's still a synthetic test that generates unrealistic levels of heat.... 2cents.gif

At the end of the day, you'll still need to actually use the computer to determine whether or not it's actually stable for your own purposes....I've had OC's that were stable for 8+ hours of Prime, only to crash after 15 minutes of Far Cry 3 on max settings....Just sayin....

OCCT Large is what I'm talking about. Yes, it's synthetic, and yes you'll get higher temps than x264 encoding. No one is running it to see "how much heat it will can produce" though, they're running it to see if they're stable in it.

OCCT destroyed my x264 stable voltages. I consider it to be much more representative of what "stable" is for haswell
post #6687 of 19539
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Originally Posted by SgtRotty View Post


updated sig, sorry bout that. (fat fingers,small phone). for some reason ive had these settings stable for a month or so, all of a sudden i got random bsods. in the bios i noticed that my core,ring, input volts all were fine , but SA, DIO, AIO were switched back to default. these were as follows: SA+.150, AIO+.030, DIO+.030 all for 2400. if i go all default settings @ 2400, bsod codes ( 3B,1E,50)

new updated settings:


Username: SgtRotty
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier: x45
CPU VID: 1.275
Vcore: 1.288
Input Voltage: 1.87
Uncore Multiplier: x43
Uncore Voltage: 1.20
Cooling Solution: h100 push/pull
Stability Test: bf3 and bf4 only (experimenting with XTU)
Batch Number: L312B534
Ram Speed:2x4gb gskills xtrident 2400 1 0-13-13-33 1CR

Ok, you will be updated.

Please come back when you've done more tests.

 

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Originally Posted by creos7 View Post

Darkwizzie,

Could you pls update my OC entry. I believe I experienced some kind of 'burn-in' of the OC. My stable voltages went up and it took me forever to realize that. It started happening during the last step of my OC process when I tried to reliably get my GSkill TridentX to its rated level. Finally I ended up going back to square one only to realize my core/uncore voltages were no longer stable. Here are the new values.

Core X46 @ 1.319V (may be able to make tighter but frankly too tired to play with this anymore, I've lost all desire to try to reach 47 just too exhausted and happy to have a stable system)
CacheRatio x43 @1.243V (again might have a tighter value but too tired to play more)
SA/DIO/AIO +0.150V
DRAM 2133 @1.62V 9/11/11/13

I've tested these with 8 hours of OCCT (I've found this to be the most sensitive test for my own system), several RealBench runs, CineBench runs and XTU runs. Going to do a 20x pass of x264 tonight,

Some benchmark results, don't know how good they are but there it is.
Note that I do not have a dedicated GPU, this is using the integrated CPU GPU, kind of waiting on pricing of the OC 780Ti edition to see if I'll totally splurge on it...

XTU: 1126
CineBench15: 947
RealBench System: 84391, Video Editing: 133678/64s, Encoding 101428/118.19s, OpenGL(IntegratedGPU) 31131/510, Multitasking: 96234/101.627s

I'm going to still run OCCT and x264 for a few more nights just to make sure there are no further regressions.... sooo glad to be done with this (i hope!!)

Thanks.

 

Yup, will do.

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Originally Posted by Shanenanigans View Post


That is highly interesting. After a few calculations, I found that my 4.2 stable and 4.5 stable are about .105v apart. Sadly, this would mean I'd need about 1.3v for 4.6, which is beyond my comfort zone for my Hyper 212X's heat dissipation capabilities.

Hmm, but for me though, VCCIN needed to increase as well. It was the only way I could stabilize at 4.6. I think proceeding to 4.7 for me would be too much, that'd be what, 1.5v VID, 2.3v VCCIN? Kind of insane, even for me. weirdsmiley.gif 

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OCCT Large is what I'm talking about. Yes, it's synthetic, and yes you'll get higher temps than x264 encoding. No one is running it to see "how much heat it will can produce" though, they're running it to see if they're stable in it.

OCCT destroyed my x264 stable voltages. I consider it to be much more representative of what "stable" is for haswell
It's on my long to-do list. And it's getting pretty long. That's what she...

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This is my setup, does anyone have any thoughts or comments? Also my computer fails the stress tests but works perfectly fine in games, so should I raise my core voltage?


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Hmm, but for me though, VCCIN needed to increase as well. It was the only way I could stabilize at 4.6. I think proceeding to 4.7 for me would be too much, that'd be what, 1.5v VID, 2.3v VCCIN? Kind of insane, even for me. weirdsmiley.gif  

Yep. Very weird. But I didn't have to increase VCCIN. It was at 1.86v to begin with. Never had to increase beyond that. So maybe it's alright.
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Yep. Very weird. But I didn't have to increase VCCIN. It was at 1.86v to begin with. Never had to increase beyond that. So maybe it's alright.

Well, your Vcore is much lower than mine to begin with so I am  not surprised VCCIN didn't really need to be raised. You probably won't need to touch it even if you went to 1.3v.

 

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This is my setup, does anyone have any thoughts or comments? Also my computer fails the stress tests but works perfectly fine in games, so should I raise my core voltage?


http://valid.canardpc.com/h5a2jr

What test? The validator doesn't show all the settings like uncore ratio, voltage, VCCIN, etc.

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