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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Are you using prime27.9 and not waiting for small ffts or setting it manually? I don't really use prime, but it should be way hotter. Large fft and large fft section of blend is very cool, old version is cooler too


I'm using the 3570k prime test settings I found here. Adjusted for 8 cores and adjusted for how much ram I have.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition
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i watched those videos but there are still some question marks.

i got an H100i water cooler. and overclocking for max performance i can possibly get. besides OC is a sickness.
i know im not gonna need that much performance in my pc but i still wanna squeeze it as much as i can.

right now my multiplier is 42X (1.2v) and max cache ratio is 38X

by saying 'dont reduce the ring bus more than 3 under my multiplier' you mean this? now there's 4X between them.

and when i raise the cache ratio my temps are going high during the synthetic tests. especially during adia64 fpu stress test and intel burn test. ( between 85-89)
is 90 degrees a safe temp since the tjmax is 100.

and how can my system go down during a game (you said BF4 for example) when it survives the stress tests for hours.
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and how can my system go down during a game (you said BF4 for example) when it survives the stress tests for hours.

They are stressing different things. Real-world vs synthetic.
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Originally Posted by Hhead View Post

i watched those videos but there are still some question marks.

i got an H100i water cooler. and overclocking for max performance i can possibly get. besides OC is a sickness.
i know im not gonna need that much performance in my pc but i still wanna squeeze it as much as i can.

right now my multiplier is 42X (1.2v) and max cache ratio is 38X

by saying 'dont reduce the ring bus more than 3 under my multiplier' you mean this? now there's 4X between them.

and when i raise the cache ratio my temps are going high during the synthetic tests. especially during adia64 fpu stress test and intel burn test. ( between 85-89)
is 90 degrees a safe temp since the tjmax is 100.

and how can my system go down during a game (you said BF4 for example) when it survives the stress tests for hours.

Whowa howa whowahwaohawohaw.

Who said don't reduce ring bus more than 3 under multiplier? My guide says the exact opposite. OCing core, uncore automatically goes to stock.

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i watched those videos but there are still some question marks.

i got an H100i water cooler. and overclocking for max performance i can possibly get. besides OC is a sickness.
i know im not gonna need that much performance in my pc but i still wanna squeeze it as much as i can.

right now my multiplier is 42X (1.2v) and max cache ratio is 38X

by saying 'dont reduce the ring bus more than 3 under my multiplier' you mean this? now there's 4X between them.

and when i raise the cache ratio my temps are going high during the synthetic tests. especially during adia64 fpu stress test and intel burn test. ( between 85-89)
is 90 degrees a safe temp since the tjmax is 100.

and how can my system go down during a game (you said BF4 for example) when it survives the stress tests for hours.

Looks like something's suspect with your voltages or with the mounting of your H100i. A measly 1.2v isn't enough to generate that much heat unless you're on the stock cooler. Check your cache voltage and input voltage. Also, like stated in the OP of this thread, Darkwizzie has done numerous tests to show that there isn't much of a difference. I myself run at 35x.
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Hi all, I just tried to Oc my brand new 4770 k with a stock cooler.I have Asus maximus hero mb and i used its menu from bios to set it to 4.2 ghz.I am using hwmonitor to track temps.What was strange temps with intel burn went up to 100.Then i checked without oc, same temps.???
Currently i am on 4.2 ghz because games fine with it temps around 60-70.(gw2 in stereoscopic 3D).
My questions:
is this safe?
clock speed is going up and down even at 70celsius.
Is this throttling?If it is,then it is normal?I heard when cpu is in light use can throttle down.So it should be changing constantly?

Thank you,

Meta
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Originally Posted by metaton View Post

Hi all, I just tried to Oc my brand new 4770 k with a stock cooler.I have Asus maximus hero mb and i used its menu from bios to set it to 4.2 ghz.I am using hwmonitor to track temps.What was strange temps with intel burn went up to 100.Then i checked without oc, same temps.???
Currently i am on 4.2 ghz because games fine with it temps around 60-70.(gw2 in stereoscopic 3D).
My questions:
is this safe?
clock speed is going up and down even at 70celsius.
Is this throttling?If it is,then it is normal?I heard when cpu is in light use can throttle down.So it should be changing constantly?

Thank you,

Meta

You need to read the original post.

Make sure adaptive is not on while using synthetic stress. Don't use IBT.

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i didnt say that. i guess i got it wrong
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If the first, keep in mind that while core is king, reducing other parameters in the BIOS will actually reduce performance after a certain point. For example, JJ from Asus reports in one of those videos, and not to say that everyone agrees with him, that reducing the ring bus (sometimes called uncore) more than 3 under ya core multiplier will have a detrimental effect on ya overall performance.
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Well either way, uncore has been demonstrated to have a negligible impact on performance through test after test, verified by multiple people. Uncore is a nonfactor at this point, and it makes no sense to overclock two things at one time. It just adds to the confusion. Just OC the uncore after the core is done.

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Cache Ratio's minimal effect on performance is best summarised by the following hypothetical situation:

CPU #1 has a Core frequency of 5.1ghz and a stock Uncore/Cache Ratio of 3.8ghz
CPU #2 has a Core frequency of 5.0 ghz and a Uncore/Cache Ratio of 5.0ghz

CPU #1 will perform better than CPU #2.
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