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post #6831 of 19603
Hi thanks for the quick answer, I will look into it and try to avoid Intel burn then.

It is safe to leave on 4,2 Ghz if the temperatures around 60-70 while playing?
I havent experienced any freezing or anything abnormal.
On the other hand this is strange everyone saying these cpus should be VERY hot with the stock cooler on 4,2 Ghz.
Mine is not. AsusCPU tweaker from bios really working? Something is suspicious.

As i saying however the clock is jumping up and down, somethimes staying on 4,2 for a while then 3,5, 800 then back to 4,2 Ghz. (even at normal temps.)

This is the throttling?
and if it is, Should the CPU do it?

(it is doing because i am overclocked the cpu or this is just energy saving? So with other words....the clock speed should be constantly 4,2 GHZ????? ((if it is oc ed to 4,2 ghz)


Sorry I am a bit new into it:)
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Hi thanks for the quick answer, I will look into it and try to avoid Intel burn then.

It is safe to leave on 4,2 Ghz if the temperatures around 60-70 while playing?
I havent experienced any freezing or anything abnormal.
On the other hand this is strange everyone saying these cpus should be VERY hot with the stock cooler on 4,2 Ghz.
Mine is not. AsusCPU tweaker from bios really working? Something is suspicious.

As i saying however the clock is jumping up and down, somethimes staying on 4,2 for a while then 3,5, 800 then back to 4,2 Ghz. (even at normal temps.)

This is the throttling?
and if it is, Should the CPU do it?

(it is doing because i am overclocked the cpu or this is just energy saving? So with other words....the clock speed should be constantly 4,2 GHZ????? ((if it is oc ed to 4,2 ghz)


Sorry I am a bit new into it:)

That's the thing with ASUS boards, they have so many settings.

 

60-70 while playing games is fine. Once you hit 80 or higher though, you might want to dial that in for normal use. 80C while stressing on the other hand is good.

 

It doesn't throttle until temps hit 95c+ so there is no way that can be thermal throttling. What are you using to measure the CPU frequency, btw?

 

Temps vary wildy based upon the application in question and voltage. At 4.2ghz, some people need 1.1v, some need 1.25v. That sort of jump, plus somebody using BF3 vs IBT, makes a huge temperature difference.

 

Somebody else with ASUS mobo might be able to fill you in, but there is a way to test if it's actually lowering in speed; simply benchmark the CPU while it's "throttling". If results are same as any other person's CPU at that speed, then it's a sensor issue.

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Yeah this is the problem, to many options....


Somebody can tell what i need to manually change in maximus hero bios to set it 4,2- or 4,4 Ghz?

Or when I am in the bios there is an option to set it 4200 or 4400 or 4600 (enable OC) and level up CPU (or whatever)
it is the same when i do it manually? (and it is reliable method?)
post #6834 of 19603
tonight im gonna go over 44X cpu.
should i set min and max cache ratio to auto before stress testing? or should i leave em at 38X and play with em after i stabilize my 44X+ OC??
post #6835 of 19603
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tonight im gonna go over 44X cpu.
should i set min and max cache ratio to auto before stress testing? or should i leave em at 38X and play with em after i stabilize my 44X+ OC??


http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics/6810#post_21379601

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3. Decide why you are overclocking ....is it for better performance ? .... or just for the challenge, learning experience of for "competitive benchmarking" purposes to get the highest possible validated multiplier and have bragging rights over ya best buddy smile.gif ?.

If the first, keep in mind that while core is king, reducing other parameters in the BIOS will actually reduce performance after a certain point. For example, JJ from Asus reports in one of those videos, and not to say that everyone agrees with him, that reducing the ring bus (sometimes called uncore or cache ratio) more than 3 under ya core multiplier will have a detrimental effect on ya overall performance.
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Well i discovered after a lot of searching that the intel burn test and aida64 fpu test will just request as many volts as it needs to keep running and over ride any settings you have if voltage set to dynamic or whatever it's called on your motherboard. If you set it to forced voltage where it doesn't drop the volts at idle it will only use as many volts as you set. Having said that it still runs about 20 degrees higher than any other stress test, intel burn test does the same but it spikes rather than just sitting there.

I'm a lot happier with my overclock now. I was gonna run with 4.5ghz @ 1.32 volts, hitting 80 in prime and 60 in gaming. After running the fpu test in aida64 and intel burn test i tweaked a bit more and got it stable at 4.3ghz and 1.23 v core. Don't go over 68 in prime95 now and still around 88 with the fpu test and spikes to similar with intel burn. Gaming stays around 55, and at idle v core drops to 0.719 @ 800mhz lol.

Sure the overclock might be crappier but i'm confident i'm completely stable and have found the sweet spot without pushing to hard. I think my cpu is pretty crappy actually, was running 1.19v @ stock settings.

Yeah i agree i am happy with a totally stable overclock at 4.3ghz @ 1.225v which never goes over 60c even after 4 hours of gaming...and i have tested my overclock by completing all of BF4....all of Farcry 3....all of call of duty ghosts and all of crysis 3 without one 124 BSOD or lock up or crash of any kind...i am more than happy with a 4.3ghz overclock as it a nice bump up from 3.5/3.9ghz and as i said i mainly game on my PC and overclocking the CPU does not do that much for your frame rates in games!... and for me that's all i care about...personally i don't want to have weeks of an unstable PC continuously stress testing only to watch it fail at 7 hours of a stress test, and then having to ram more voltage though my CPU to do it all over again...no thanks not for me....however each to there own i say and i am happy that some people want to push there computers to the edge to see how much they can get out of there CPU....to me i just wanted a stable boost over standard that i feel happy with and i feel happy that i am not degrading my CPU in anyway...here are some results that techpowerup.com found while overclocking the I7-4770K and running FPS tests in the most popular games to see how many more FPS they would get at different frequency's!... and you will see what extra FPS you get from your overclocked CPU in a game environment and it is basically nothing!..to me its not worth the extra voltage and time and effort if you want a gaming PC.




http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/8.html
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So I was doing stress testing last nite at 4.7 cpu ratio and 4.5ghz nb freq tested for 5hrs didint crash biggrin.gif but like 7hrs it Crashed was gonna take pictures at 7hrs if it made it but failed
I did manage to go from 1.27v to 1.28 and it reads this and idk if I would be stable by +10v will stress test today see what happens

oops wrong pic here it is

I think You have the lowest Temps for 1.34 Vcore 4.7 Ghz I have seen so far. Is max Temp under full Load ??
Is the CPU delidded? Do You use Watercooling?

Very Nice thumb.gif
Edited by Alxx - 12/13/13 at 9:42am
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I think You have the lowest Temps for 1.34 Vcore 4.7 Ghz I have seen so far. Is max Temp under full Load ??
Is the CPU delidded? Do You use Watercooling?

Very Nice thumb.gif


Lol oh ya.. biggrin.gif yup that the highest temps I seen was only 68c my last core would never go above 57c lol when stress testing using Aida64.. that temp in pic is when just got done Gaming BF4
never gone over 62c

Na my CPU not Delid just yet waiting on all the parts I order to get here! Waiting to purchase a Naked Ivy Mount in stores when they get more thumb.gif
I'm running water cooler XSPC Raystorm 750 EX240 water kit my lowest temps is 17c when idle biggrin.gif
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So, CPU not delidded ??
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So, CPU not delidded ??

Nope not just yet thumb.gif Soon will be and will post Results if everything turns out good not breaking it yessir.gif
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