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I just thought it is nice too see what Motherboard someone uses. Since this column is already added. No one has to answer this.
This could be of help for someone who wants to build up a Haswell System. I agree the choice of the motherboard is less important because the CPU capability will mostly limit your overclock. But I also think that some Motherboards are better suited for Haswell OC than others, because of the way they are built (vrm's) and Bios implementation. Forgive any mistakes english is not my native language. smile.gif
Edited by Alxx - 12/23/13 at 8:06am
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I just thought it is nice too see what Motherboard someone uses. Since this column is already added. No one has to answer this.
This could be of help for someone who wants to build up a Haswell System. I agree the choice of the motherboard is less important because the CPU capability will mostly limit your overclock. But I also think that some Motherboards are better suited for Haswell OC than others, because of the way they are built (vrm's) and Bios implementation. Forgive any mistakes english is not my native language. smile.gif

z87x-d3h and ud3h, ud4h etc have basically the same vrm setup and bios, as well as behaviors like manual voltage dropping @ idle, 35x uncore being 8x idle 40x load, etc; for actual CPU OC, you probably can't tell them apart; i don't think you can really do better than the d3h unless you want to spend money on other features, for cpu core/uncore oc alone it'll push you to 1.4v+ np and is just super solid atx board
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Gigabyte Z87 D3H is solid but there are some more good Z87 boards out there. The Asrock Extreme 6 and OC/M Formula and MSI GD65 Gaming, MSI MPower for instance. These are also good Boards. There are a lot of positive reports for these boards too. I did not mean just Gigabyte Boards.
Edited by Alxx - 12/23/13 at 9:24am
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Further to my previous post. My 4.2ghz "stable" clock is no longer stable. Using pc this evening ive had a few BSOD's and crash's.

So basically i cannot over clock my cpu. Not sure weather to try and return it for another one (only had it 1 week) or to ditch haswell and go back to my sb-e and just stick it in a matx board for my new build.

Also il add i tried some 1600mhz corsair vengance ram today and that made no difference so im pretty sure its not a ram issue.
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Further to my previous post. My 4.2ghz "stable" clock is no longer stable. Using pc this evening ive had a few BSOD's and crash's.

So basically i cannot over clock my cpu. Not sure weather to try and return it for another one (only had it 1 week) or to ditch haswell and go back to my sb-e and just stick it in a matx board for my new build.

Also il add i tried some 1600mhz corsair vengance ram today and that made no difference so im pretty sure its not a ram issue.

Which BSOD's and crashes? Did you do what i said in other post?
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Just installed 1102 bios in my Hero all is well,also did more testing 4.5 @1.36 stable so far might try lower vcore.I think the eventual voltage is a game changer on some of these chips! Had mine set at 1.85 to begin with was not stable until i had vcore at 1.37 now i have it at 1.95 and im rockin 1.36 at 4.5 for3 hours of x-264 before it would Bsod at 2 passes
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take note of bsod code especially if you are at 1.36 vcore set, usually at this point 124 = vcore, 101 = vrin. That is, if you don't have RAM/uncore clocked up and don't have to worry about them, though they're often fine
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take note of bsod code especially if you are at 1.36 vcore set, usually at this point 124 = vcore, 101 = vrin. That is, if you don't have RAM/uncore clocked up and don't have to worry about them, though they're often fine

Cyro i tried everything you said but still no effect. A few pages back you see my post with everything i have tried.

Most of my BSOD's are F4 codes. I rarley have had a 124 bsod.

Often when failing to boot, i dont even get a bsod, it just hangs, or black screen crash's, or auto-reboots.
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New haswell owner here.

I have a 4770k on a asus maximus gene vi board with 8gb of corsair dominator plat 2133 ram.

Ive had some major problems trying to o/c this cpu and am starting to wonder if I actually have a issue with the cpu or maybe the ram.

Basically following the guide here, and other haswell overclocking threads about I have set a base line of...

ram set at default 1333mhz,
cache clock at 33x
LLC level set to level 6
cache voltage to 1.15
VCCIN set at 1.85
and then vcore at 1.23,

So with these settings I can boot into windows with a 42x core multiplier and it is stable and runs good. If I then up the core to 43x I cannot boot into windows I get a 124 bsod on windows logo.

So I try and up vcore to 1.25, then 1.27 but still cannot boot into windows. I upped VCCIN to 1.90 but no effect. So I go higher on vcore and even at 1.32 I bsod however I noticed I was now getting a f4 bsod which I believe is memory? so I set my ram profile to the xmp (2133mhz) and now I can boot into windows and do basic stuff, but if I stress test with prime or burn it bsod's after about 30 seconds.

Trying at a 44x core I cannot boot into windows no matter what. Ive read countless threads and it seems with a lower cache speed (33-35x) and a higher vccin people seem to be able to hit 44-46x core with less than 1.3v so I just cant work out why I cannot do this.

I have tried various other settings like high and lower LLC level, 130% cpu power capacity, setting cpu vrm to optimised, vr fault management disabled, cpu spread spectrum disabled, upping cpu system agent 0.010v.

Everything I read about people struggling with overclock's is that they cannot get stable while stress testing. I however cannot even boot into windows at anything more than 43x.

Im hoping theres something im missing, otherwise I fear I may have a hardware issue.

Thanks,

Seems really weird. 42x stable in x264? I'd try tuning down voltages on 42x, til you're not stable there. You should be able to just lower vcore, maybe try 1.8 or 1.75vrin if you're going lower but i don't think you have to.

For RAM, manually set it to 1333mhz 9-9-9-24 and 1.5v, all 3 frequency timings voltage to be sure. What are your SA, DIO, AIO voltages at if you can read them?

When you're as low as you can get on vcore for 42x you can know what to expect more for other multi's
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Ive read countless threads and it seems with a lower cache speed (33-35x) and a higher vccin people seem to be able to hit 44-46x core with less than 1.3v so I just cant work out why I cannot do this.

Silicon lottery, some chips are stable at 5ghz on 1.3v, others only 4.4, but your case seems a bit weird. F4 is really odd and if you're not failing with 124, you probably don't need more vcore and it won't help to throw more
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Cyro i tried everything you said but still no effect. A few pages back you see my post with everything i have tried.

Most of my BSOD's are F4 codes. I rarley have had a 124 bsod.

Often when failing to boot, i dont even get a bsod, it just hangs, or black screen crash's, or auto-reboots.

I don't feel f4 is CPU's fault. If your OC is really that bad and you care about it, I'd get another one. On the other hand, if it's not due to your CPU, then changing CPUs won't really help. But it would prove the f4 isn't the CPU's fault. A day or two ago I heard about a guy getting Bsods with weird codes and it turned out to be his mouse and keyboard drivers! If anything remotely similar is happening to you, it's very hard for us to fix your issue because it's so obscure.

 

I would try Cyro's suggestion. IIRC you went straight to 1.25, you could try lower multiplier and lower voltage and work from there on.

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z87x-d3h and ud3h, ud4h etc have basically the same vrm setup and bios, as well as behaviors like manual voltage dropping @ idle, 35x uncore being 8x idle 40x load, etc; for actual CPU OC, you probably can't tell them apart; i don't think you can really do better than the d3h unless you want to spend money on other features, for cpu core/uncore oc alone it'll push you to 1.4v+ np and is just super solid atx board

The mobo column isn't required for anything, it's just sorta there just in case we find something useful.


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