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Well I am just burnt out (pun intended) from overclocking and testing so much today I may try for x46 multiplier tomorrow I just get nervous putting my VCCIN up to 2v, but then again I did try that before with a VCore of 1.4 and got BSOD's while using x264...grr so many voltage options

There are more than Sandy and Ivy, yes.

 

Vrin - Yes, this one counts and is definately a factor for performance

VID - Yes, obviously

Vring - Minor, only a afterthought for the most part

Io/SA - Running major ram OCs? Then again, ram OC isn't THAT big of a performance game changer and my ram OC didn't even need any changes there.

 

So really, you're trying to balance Vrin and Vid while having uncore and Vring set to a near-stock but rock solid stable level when you are still trying to OC core.

 

Is Vrin safe at 2v? Well, is 1.4v safe for Vcore? It's all relative and I cannot tell you for sure either way because the only way to do so would be to get a good 10, 20, 30 broken Haswells to know when a CPU dies at a voltage. And that's probably not going to happen before Haswell is obsolete. I am personally on 2.15v. It's up to you, but if you don't up that Vrin by much there is a decent chance you are stuck no matter the VID.

 

Then again, unless you really use those cores a lot, I doubt you'll ever feel the difference change from 4.5 to 4.6. Just come back tomorrow then.


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Oi ya sorry, I'm loosing my mind at the moment haha. I was getting BSOD's, not hard lock up just a straight up BSOD.

Yes, you'd want to lower ring/cache voltage

And BSOD - very unspecific. That tells you nothing about why your OC is failing. Ok, instant BSOD - 124 or 101? If you're on windows 8 and don't have BSOD codes (..microsoft....) then what's the error message? You're just throwing vcore at the problem without knowing if the problem is vcore (or even could be vcore), and 1.4vcore with 1.9vrin probably won't work
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There are more than Sandy and Ivy, yes.

Vrin - Yes, this one counts and is definately a factor for performance
VID - Yes, obviously
Vring - Minor, only a afterthought for the most part
Io/SA - Running major ram OCs? Then again, ram OC isn't THAT big of a performance game changer and my ram OC didn't even need any changes there.

So really, you're trying to balance Vrin and Vid while having uncore and Vring set to a near-stock but rock solid stable level when you are still trying to OC core.

Is Vrin safe at 2v? Well, is 1.4v safe for Vcore? It's all relative and I cannot tell you for sure either way because the only way to do so would be to get a good 10, 20, 30 broken Haswells to know when a CPU dies at a voltage. And that's probably not going to happen before Haswell is obsolete. I am personally on 2.15v. It's up to you, but if you don't up that Vrin by much there is a decent chance you are stuck no matter the VID.

Then again, unless you really use those cores a lot, I doubt you'll ever feel the difference change from 4.5 to 4.6.

Right now I am running the XMP profile for my ram which is 1866 and its stable with that with 4.5Ghz, but tomorrow I think I will mess around more with the Vrin for x46 and see what happens. It is true I did have my 2600k @1.45v for almost 2 years and had no issues and I think I even had the PLL overvoltage at like 1.9? or something. But ya I don't plan on OCing my ram.

Also is there anyway to stop it so my Vrin and VCore..and actually all my voltage settings always go up by 0.015-ish its super annoying.
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Yes, you'd want to lower ring/cache voltage

And BSOD - very unspecific. That tells you nothing about why your OC is failing. Ok, instant BSOD - 124 or 101? If you're on windows 8 and don't have BSOD codes (..microsoft....) then what's the error message? You're just throwing vcore at the problem without knowing if the problem is vcore (or even could be vcore), and 1.4vcore with 1.9vrin probably won't work

I do use windows 8 and all my OCing on the 2600k was under windows 7 ugh stupid no codes. There are little messages and when I start doing the x46 OCing again tomorrow I'll pay attention to the message that pops up because I do remember seeing a couple different things.
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Right now I am running the XMP profile for my ram which is 1866 and its stable with that with 4.5Ghz, but tomorrow I think I will mess around more with the Vrin for x46 and see what happens. It is true I did have my 2600k @1.45v for almost 2 years and had no issues and I think I even had the PLL overvoltage at like 1.9? or something. But ya I don't plan on OCing my ram.

Also is there anyway to stop it so my Vrin and VCore..and actually all my voltage settings always go up by 0.015-ish its super annoying.
I do use windows 8 and all my OCing on the 2600k was under windows 7 ugh stupid no codes. There are little messages and when I start doing the x46 OCing again tomorrow I'll pay attention to the message that pops up because I do remember seeing a couple different things.

About the setting going up: Nope. By that small amount, unsure if it's sensor error or Intel derping. This is why my chart has a VID and a Vcore column, to track that small jump between BIOS value and measured value under load.

 

Windows 8 replaced the number codes with wordy codes.

Take it easy today and come back tomorrow then.

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Oi ya sorry, I'm loosing my mind at the moment haha. I was getting BSOD's, not hard lock up just a straight up BSOD.

Did you see what the BSOD code was? That'll give you a hint on what needs to be adjusted. If you didn't catch the code, you can use the following program to be able to look at the code thumb.gif:

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

Just post the code(s) you're getting and we can help you figure out what needs to be adjusted....biggrin.gifcheers.gif
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I was looking in my BIOS and noticed my VRIN was 1.752V. Is that high? I am running at 4.5ghz @ 1.245V for the past few months stable....
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I was looking in my BIOS and noticed my VRIN was 1.752V. Is that high? I am running at 4.5ghz @ 1.245V for the past few months stable....

1.752v for vrin is actually fairly low, but not for your vcore, I guess. If you're stable, you're stable.
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Guyz, do you think it is worth upgrading from i5-750 @3.6 (no, it can't go any higher) to i5-4670k? I am playing in 1080p, getting a 120hz monitor soon so a better CPU would really help in obtaining such high fps wow

Can I expect it to run @4.2GHz with Mugen 2 rev. b within reasonable temperatures? Yea i know everything comes down to lottery luck, but I seem to be really unlucky with it (awful i5-750, bad R9 290 but at least it unlocked)
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Guyz, do you think it is worth upgrading from i5-750 @3.6 (no, it can't go any higher) to i5-4670k? I am playing in 1080p, getting a 120hz monitor soon so a better CPU would really help in obtaining such high fps wow

Can I expect it to run @4.2GHz with Mugen 2 rev. b within reasonable temperatures? Yea i know everything comes down to lottery luck, but I seem to be really unlucky with it (awful i5-750, bad R9 290 but at least it unlocked)

I would say yes on the upgrade not sure about the Mugen 2.
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I was looking in my BIOS and noticed my VRIN was 1.752V. Is that high? I am running at 4.5ghz @ 1.245V for the past few months stable....

 

The info is in the original post.

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Guyz, do you think it is worth upgrading from i5-750 @3.6 (no, it can't go any higher) to i5-4670k? I am playing in 1080p, getting a 120hz monitor soon so a better CPU would really help in obtaining such high fps wow

Can I expect it to run @4.2GHz with Mugen 2 rev. b within reasonable temperatures? Yea i know everything comes down to lottery luck, but I seem to be really unlucky with it (awful i5-750, bad R9 290 but at least it unlocked)

Part of it depends on what stress test you want to run. I'm ducking down with x264/chess and I'm getting sub 80C temps @ 1.42v. If you're one of those "linpack or die" people, then there is a good possibility it won't happen. Prime, probably will. x264, getting 4.2 is virtually guarenteed.

 

I think it's worth it. And it's not like Haswell is getting replaced soon by a much faster Intel product, either. If you skip out on Haswell you might be skipping out on CPU upgrade for a long time before it's "worthwhile" in your eyes.

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