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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

Have you read the OP? I believe you didn't since you didn't state your vrin.

Vrin = CPU input voltage on Asrock
Set to fixed 1.9V as mentioned in the post. And I did read the OP more than once.
post #7722 of 19539
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Originally Posted by vlps5122 View Post

ive had 101 and 124 BSOD's i believe the 101 was caued by my cache speed being too high and im guessing the 124s are the vcore/vrin being too low. did u get 124s until u set vrin to 1.95+?

your cache/uncore should be at 33x and like 1.15 ring/cache voltage while you're testing core to eliminate this, and then most likely 101 will be vrin, 124 will be vcore. You don't want to set vcore too high because then more VRIN will be demanded and you enter a loop of throwing way too much voltages
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your cache/uncore should be at 33x and like 1.15 ring/cache voltage while you're testing core to eliminate this, and then most likely 101 will be vrin, 124 will be vcore. You don't want to set vcore too high because then more VRIN will be demanded and you enter a loop of throwing way too much voltages

my cache has been stock at 39 for most testing. ive also read that having the cache too far from the core at high overclocks i.e. 47x core and 33x cache could cause instability as well
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my cache has been stock at 39 for most testing. ive also read that having the cache too far from the core at high overclocks i.e. 47x core and 33x cache could cause instability as well

That's wrong and you should follow the OP like it is your haswell bible.
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Originally Posted by vlps5122 View Post

guys i have a question, my 4770k scales pretty constant with increased voltage up to 4.6 ghz with 1.3v stable. But if i try to go to 4.7ghz so far it failed about 6 hours in on 1.38v. Im guessing i need 1.4v for complete stability at 4.7ghz, is it normal for such a large jump? +0.1v to go from 4.6 to 4.7ghz?

or is possibly vrin an issue? i have never touched vrin, so please aware me im at 1.9v atm

Vrin could possibly be an issue. I used 2.15v @ 1.42v VID.

 

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I cannot seem to find any stable configuration and starting to give up.
Configuration:
I7-4770K. (COSTA RICA 3325B503)
Asrock Extreme6
G.Skill Trident-X 2400
Corsair H100i

I have tried 46 multiplier for voltages from 1.2 to 1.28,
45 Multi. (1.2-1.28)
44 (1.17-1.25)
43 (1.18 – 1.21)

One stress test (43 Multiplier @ 1.19) even passed 13 hours on AID64 (Stress CPU,FPU,Cache, System memory) and failed in the first 10 minutes of Prime95 Blend.

Cpu Input voltage set at fixed 1.9v
Cache multiplier @ 35 @ Auto Voltage (1.25V)
PLL overvoltage Enabled, Spread spectrum Disabled.
Ram XMP Disabled (Running @ 1333)

Now looks like getting the K model and the Corsair cooler was a waste of money.

Anything I’m Missing?

Slightly confused here. Making sure I'm reading this correctly... So you were never stable on x43 yet you went on to x44, x45, x46?

 

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my cache has been stock at 39 for most testing. ive also read that having the cache too far from the core at high overclocks i.e. 47x core and 33x cache could cause instability as well

Pretty sure you heard wrongly.

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Sure, will do. I might mess around to try 4.6GHz later but I prefer the current voltage on 4.5 and really can't afford any higher temps with my current cooling solution unless I de-lid (which I don't want to do).

And yes you're probably correct for Vcore, should be 1.276 but is that my "IA" on Asus mobo's in HWMonitor vs "Vcore" ?
Vcore is measured by Hwinfo (And I think the latest version of HWmonitor includes it now). It is its own seperate reading on Hwinfo.

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Vrin could possibly be an issue. I used 2.15v @ 1.42v VID.

Slightly confused here. Making sure I'm reading this correctly... So you were never stable on x43 yet you went on to x44, x45, x46?

No.

I tried x46 First. When I reached 1.28V and still no stability I moved down to x45 etc.
post #7727 of 19539
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No.

I tried x46 First. When I reached 1.28V and still no stability I moved down to x45 etc.

Ok, I recommend doing it the other way around. That is, low to high multiplier. So say you find stable x42, and you're stuck at x43, we should be looking at x43 not the instability you get at x46.

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Thank you. I seem to be finding stability at x43 @1.22. Is this too much for 4.3ghz?
Also, I did a reset to bios settings and when I set the voltage to override and set it to 1.22 while setting Vcore Voltage additional offset to Auto I find that it adds 0.08V to the total voltage which brings it 1.30V.
This didn't happen before resting the bios settings. I can't also set this offset voltage to 0. Instead I'm doing an override voltage of 1.21 and an offset of 0.01. Is this OK? or is there another option which "zeros" the offset?
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My 4770K is, I believe, Average. I read (and tested) that you should set 1.2 V and move the multiplier up to see "how good your chip is." Well, mine could not start windows at 46X @ 1.2V; therefore, I have just an average chip apparently.

I have delidded and applied coolaboratories to the die...thinking of applying the Arctic Ceramique paste I applied to my H100i recently...to...the die.

Anyhow, I can run a stable 4.7 GHz with cache ratio of 4.6 (going to 48 core ratio or 47 cache ratio will lock up windows on start - not good) due to tweaking the Vrin to 1.98, I set adaptive voltage to 1.39. I run the monitoring at all times in games etc and temps never go above 30 something, maybe a 40 once in a while. Idle temps, because I've got it as far as it will go, hover around 30 degrees...if I scale it back to 4.4 or 4.5 GHz then idle temps are 23 to 25 (all since the Arctic Ceramique applied - used to get 15 to 19 degrees with the stock paste from the H100i when I first screwed in the cooler, but since I fiddled with it and applied new paste, I've lost 5 degrees at idle, I don't really care though). I'm using PUSH with H100i fans.

GTX 780 is maxed out volatage-wise to +63...not running an SLI, yet...I have an 860w Seasonic Platinum PSU ready to go, purchased a couple of months ago, but haven't installed (currently have 650w Seasonic gold PSU in there)...

MY PROBLEM: In games, the screen will freeze after a while and I have to hit the power button to reboot (no blue screen, no ctrl alt del will work, it just freezes). This 4.7 clock just rocks I love it, and wanna keep it, but this screen freezing problem is bothersome after about a couple hrs playing, sometimes randomly after only an hour, and it's usually during a HEAVY SCENE when it freezes.

Would it be right to assume that this "Screen Freezing" problem is the Graphics card (that I need to add a card for SLI? or that 860w I have in my possession ready to go?). The temps are always less than 50, the screen will just freeze in a heavy fighting scene, not game specific. I'm streaming too, plus window media player. Using SSD, 3 TB HD, Even at 4.6, I'll get the screen freeze.

my memory is not overclocked, still at 1600 except for 1.6 V up from 1.5...I do not have XMP selected, just Auto I think...disabled speedstep, and various other disabling enabling per a guide I was following.

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Edited by D-Dow - 1/4/14 at 10:29pm
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^Could be uncore

How do you have temps that low? 1.39vcore set on a 4770k is pretty outlandish; there's no way i could do that with HT on without hitting like 100c encoding videos on "only" the best air cooling available with good ambients and no delid
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