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I know this goes against all that's been taught through this thread, but I've noticed I seem to lose stability by having the uncore set to low. When I was trying to find a stable 4.7, I set the uncore down to 34x and my computer would just hard lock with no blue screen. This sort of behavior would also happen when it was set to high. At least with my configuration, there seems to be a sweet spot for the uncore. For me, it was anywhere between 38x - 42x.
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I know this goes against all that's been taught through this thread, but I've noticed I seem to lose stability by having the uncore set to low. When I was trying to find a stable 4.7, I set the uncore down to 34x and my computer would just hard lock with no blue screen. This sort of behavior would also happen when it was set to high. At least with my configuration, there seems to be a sweet spot for the uncore. For me, it was anywhere between 38x - 42x.

It could very well be true,in essence maybe its like underclocking your cpu?
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I know this goes against all that's been taught through this thread, but I've noticed I seem to lose stability by having the uncore set to low. When I was trying to find a stable 4.7, I set the uncore down to 34x and my computer would just hard lock with no blue screen. This sort of behavior would also happen when it was set to high. At least with my configuration, there seems to be a sweet spot for the uncore. For me, it was anywhere between 38x - 42x.

I too had similar results... Set mine to 42 at the moment with my cpu at 4.8 ghz. Seems to be solid
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Originally Posted by BGKris View Post

Did you use a really thin layer of CLU?
AS5 on the IHS is perfect, no need for clu on it.

yea it was thin. i spreaded it with the brush that came with the package.

i was thinking about using CLU on IHS.

and its already been more than a day for AS5
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yea it was thin. i spreaded it with the brush that came with the package.

i was thinking about using CLU on IHS.

and its already been more than a day for AS5

From what I read I don't think you would see much change if any of using CLU vs AS5 on the IHS. Personally, whenever I remove my water block and put it back on again, I may put CLU on to see if I get any temp changes. I used CLU on the die and IC diamond on the IHS.
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yea it was thin. i spreaded it with the brush that came with the package.

i was thinking about using CLU on IHS.

and its already been more than a day for AS5

With AS5, the curing time is 200 total hours of curing time....Which means that you're heating up the compound during the day, and powering off your PC at night....
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AS5 has a cure time of a few hours though right? Might give it a bit...


More like a year ..... have to read the AS5 advisory carefully..... it says "200 hours of thermal cycling"..... so if ya fire up ya rig oin Saturday band play massive frag fest for 15 houirs, you have accomplished about 10 minutes of thermal cycling...... 3 minutes heating up / 7 minutes cooling down.

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After this article was first published, there was an immediate backlash from some of the manufacturers listed in this review. The primary argument was the lack of cure time. Here is the Arctic Silver 5 recommended cure time instruction from the manufacturers web site:

Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.

So by my estimation of this statement it would take almost a year of normal use to properly cure the AS5 compound, or almost nine days of continuous power cycles to meet their recommendation.
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Isn't the change in temps from curing like 5C or less?

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Isn't the change in temps from curing like 5C or less?

That's pretty much what I experienced while using it, which is why I switched to better compounds. Now, I'll only use Shin-Etsu, GC Extreme, or Antec Formula 7 - they all have good performance and no curing times.... thumbsupsmiley.png
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That's pretty much what I experienced while using it, which is why I switched to better compounds. Now, I'll only use Shin-Etsu, GC Extreme, or Antec Formula 7 - they all have good performance and no curing times.... thumbsupsmiley.png

I'm using the Noctua MX4 paste that came with the D14. Not bad and free. Held off on my friend's offer for Arctic Silver.

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