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It's not there man, do you think I'm making this up? I've checked 100 times, either a reporting issue with the MOBO and HWinfo or bad download.
Yeah, not running AVX don't want to jump to 1.35v accidentally. I have a great chip, using Adaptive to keep it alive for a few more generations when x99 isn't the only one with DDR4 and Octocores.

Doesn't normal video processing with Adobe Premiere use AVX? x264 uses AVX. It's about synthetic vs nonsynthetic. No need to shy away from normal rendering of videos and so forth.

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From http://rog.asus.com/242142013/labels/rog-exclusive/maximus-vi-series-uefi-guide-for-overclocking/6/
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Adaptive Mode: Adaptive voltage affects voltage for Turbo multiplier ratios only. Unlike Offset, using Adaptive does not affect idle/light load Vcore. Therefore, Adaptive mode is the preferred method for overclocking Haswell processors if one wishes to retain dynamic voltage changes according to processor load without running into issues with idle Vcore becoming too low..

There is one issue with Offset and Adaptive Mode that needs to be taken into account. The processor contains a power control unit which requests voltage based upon software load. When the PCU detects AVX instructions, it will ramp Vcore automatically beyond normal load voltage. There is no way to lock Vcore to prevent this if using Offset or Adapative Mode. This is pre-programmed by Intel into the PCU.

As an example, a CPU is perfectly stable at 1.25V using a manual voltage (static), if Adaptive or Offset Mode is used instead, it is impossible to lock the core voltage when running software that contains AVX instruction sets – stress tests such as AIDA and Prime contain AVX instruction sets. When the AVX instructions are detected by the PCU, the core voltage will be ramped an additional ~0.1V over your target voltage – so 1.25V will become ~1.35V under AVX load. If you intend to run heavy load AVX software, we recommend using Manual Vcore, NOT Adaptive or Offset Mode.

Most of us do not run AVX related software, so this is a non-issue. Either way, dialing in an overclock using Manual Vcore to determine how much voltage the processor needs under full load is best – Adaptive or Offset mode can be used to match the stable voltage later on. Simply type the target load voltage into the entry box “Additional Turbo Mode CPU core voltage” to set adaptive voltage.

Also, see pic I added regarding my HWinfo, definitely not going insane because Vcore isn't listed haha.
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From http://rog.asus.com/242142013/labels/rog-exclusive/maximus-vi-series-uefi-guide-for-overclocking/6/
Also, see pic I added regarding my HWinfo, definitely not going insane because Vcore isn't listed haha.

Talking to Cyro about this.

 

I have a headache from dinner. Look into this later.

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Talking to Cyro about this.

I have a headache from dinner. Look into this later.

Feel free to do what you want, just giving some context to my statement in case anyone reads my post and is confused.
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Not calling you a liar, I see what the problem is. Take HW Monitor program as an example, it reads VIN4 as our VCORE while VCORE reads VCCIN, so it's all over the place.

Anyhow, on your screenshot you can see VIN2, 3, 6 and 7. I'm 99% those are it. It's just reading it wrong for some dumb reason.

Also, you don't have to use Adaptive. Change over to Manual and just enable C3 and you'll see volts drop to 0.7v. Tick C6/C7 and now they drop to that 0.2v whatever level.
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I thought VIN might be it but they don't correspond to anything CPUZ or the motherboard says so don't know how to convert those voltages to actual vcores.

How is adaptive with C states enabled different than manual with C states enabled. Do they scale differently?
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Not 100% sure to be honest.

 

I'll investigate it in-depth when I have time. As another guide improvement project. :businesss

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I have all my voltages fixed in bios. 1.28 core, 1.28 cache, 1.95 input. In HWInfo core showing 1.28 , but IA and LLC/RING both showing 1.312. What are those? And what would they be called in my BIOS. I cant seem to find them. All c states disable , thermal throttling disabled. Do I need to mess with them?
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I have all my voltages fixed in bios. 1.28 core, 1.28 cache, 1.95 input. In HWInfo core showing 1.28 , but IA and LLC/RING both showing 1.312. What are those? And what would they be called in my BIOS. I cant seem to find them. All c states disable , thermal throttling disabled. Do I need to mess with them?

IA is most likely your vcore under load and LLC/Ring your Ring under load. The IVR adds a bit onto those voltages, 0.02 for vcore and a similar value for ring while under load, so you can just act as if the value you set in bios will be ~0.02 higher.
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I just enabled C3 and C7 in BIOS. I see my frequency drop to 800Mhz but my VID on CoreTemp reports 1.23V. In the control panel I switched to Balanced power setting but I do not turn off my HDs. Is there something else I need to set so the voltage drops on my VID to what others are reporting?
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