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These are the results I'm getting with a 4770k with more adjustments I'm ablr to run 5.2GHZ stable but Vcore of 1.42v. I'm just more comfortable with 4.5GHZ totally stable.
Not bad! What's your batch #?

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Not bad! What's your batch #?

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My batch # is L315B405 made in Malaysia I'm also using a Corsair H110i for cooling push/pull
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This getting confusing ..... Using HW Monitor (Asus MV6) I see no VIN4.... so if we wanna monitor Vcore, what do we look at if ya have no VIN4 ?

HW Monitor @ idle
VIN3 = 0.864
Vcore = 0.720 (Max 1.312)
VIN5 = 1.760
VID = 0.790 (1.302)
IA = 1.331
GT Offset = 0.0
LLC/Ring = 1.306

Don't think you can create a nice spreadsheet. For example neither of these versions has VIN5 for me, v1.23 is more accurate with names but it doesn't list VCCIN at all.

HW Monitor 1.23:


HW Monitor 1.24:
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I now am a bit more confused on the term overclocking in reference to memory. makes no sense if your lowering your values only to raise them still lower than rated values that is under clocking not overclocking. So how SIN I believe suggests to raise Agent Voltage but is this really considered overclocking and warrants more voltage ?

Im confused about your guide. The term overclocking memory confuses me. What I mean is this. if your overclocking, Say i bought 1866 mhz ram, many people including you have suggested drop your speeds to say 1600 mhz. In your guide you refer to overclocking memory and agent voltage and analog and digital IO being helpful during this. Say I overclock the CPU and its stable at 4.2 but I lowered my ram speeds to get there. My ram I bought is rated at 1866 , but then because 4.2 is unstable with 1866 and i'm trying to raise that, is this considered overclocking, i'm only trying rated values. Would I then try to raise agent voltage just to be stable at rated values fro ram.

Just raise the SA if you have some OC issues or if you really, really want to do everything you can to nudge just one Dram divider higher. I, for one, am ocing my ram beyond XMP without any sort of SA/Io bump. I am not saying everybody needs the voltage, I'm saying if you have issues, those voltages may or may not help.

 

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Do you recommend overclocking all cores the same multiplier or using and taking advantage of speed step or aka turbo boost frequencies. The second question I have is why do you not touch on ram that much. From what I see you suggest to set your ram to 1600 MHz and call it a day. I didn't buy expensive ram so I could lower its frequencies. I get core is kind and having a higher core clock vs high speed and ram timings is definitely better but you don't mention anything about going back into ram values or trying to find a balance. My chip right now got memtest errors and I believe it related to my overclock due to the integrated memory controller on the cpu and my overclock. I am using 1.2 voltage and have 42x,42x,41x,40x, as my boost frequencies. Now having 1.2 as vcore might be the cause of instability. That and Im running my ram at rated timings that I purchased them at. So either my CPU really is that bad that 4.2 ghz at 1.2 wont work, or 4.2 @ 1.2 and my ram timings don't mix well. Would that lead me to believe I can not run any overclock with my rated ram timings and i'm forced to lower my ram speeds ? All my other settings are put as you suggested such as keeping uncore and ring voltage to default. So this really has me confused that my chip would be unstable. I say it could be CPU and not ram because I tried each stick individually running failsafe mode on memtest which test with only one core on cpu and each stick passed individually on all slots. This really confused me. So I put the ram back where they were originally backed off overclock because I thought timings ( the regular default xmp values) were to aggressive for my CPU and NO ERRORS found. Also the other issue I have seen that you say is to not mess with LLC, but on gigabyte boards even check with SIN, any thing other than extreme on any overclocking scenario at least for me crashes and doesn't respond well. I have found if your overclocking to set LLC to extreme at least on gigabyte boards and you will be more successful. Even a mild 4.0 ghz overclock without LLC causes instability at least for me and my board on ud3h. Vdroop could be causing my instability for my ram and cpu. I also noticed power phases are important for overclocking especially on gigabyte boards.

I recommend OCing all cores the same multiplier because that's what I know about.
I believe my guide says to OC the ram higher when CPU OC is done. OC that ram as high as you can (well, without crapping up the timings too much) and raise that ram voltage to 1.65 or even 1.7. The point is, don't go back and try to lower core multiplier to increase ram speed. But multiple people report good ram OCs with Haswell. I'll double check that guide after this to make sure it says what I think it says.

I'm going to try to do a closer investigation on LLC but of course with everything, I'm limited to my mobo for testing. What I would do is first make sure your CPU is stable. If your CPu is stable and you've only OC'ed CPU and ram, then it's the ram. Run x264 overnight. Come back and if you pass, I'm willing to give that a clean bill of health.

 

Also, what instability is instability? Is it instability playing games, on benchmarks, or...? And how often until Bsods normally?

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Cannot pass x264 (2nd pass) without a blue screen.
4.6GHZ 1.380 Vcore 2.50 Vrin ect

I basically tried all the settings combinations and voltages and still blue screens rolleyes.gif
Mate, 2.5 Vrin for 1.38Vcore is a bit overkill.
You need to list other voltages as well.
 

 

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Why did you just double post with two quotes without responding to said quote?

 
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The thread regulars' reaction:

 

I usually take it with a straight face, lol.
I wonder what the people in there were looking at.

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Updated, thanks.

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I'm running 20 loops of x264 right now to confirm stability. Should have a ss with hwinfo for you shortly. I think I can hit 4.7-4.8 with this chip easily if I up the voltage enough but not with my existing cooling as my temps would be outta control.
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Can somebody help me with x264 benchmark? The instructions aren't very clear

I downloaded the benchmark...extracted the files....I run the "run benchmark" and it gives me an error about something I need to download avisynth64...I go ahead and do that...then I run the benchmark again, and it does a few tests...but it's not even taxing my CPU? Please help
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Can somebody help me with x264 benchmark? The instructions aren't very clear

I downloaded the benchmark...extracted the files....I run the "run benchmark" and it gives me an error about something I need to download avisynth64...I go ahead and do that...then I run the benchmark again, and it does a few tests...but it's not even taxing my CPU? Please help

First loop doesn't stress much at all. After the first test is done, it will loop the second test from then on until you tell it to stop. That's the very stressful one.

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Can somebody help me with x264 benchmark? The instructions aren't very clear

I downloaded the benchmark...extracted the files....I run the "run benchmark" and it gives me an error about something I need to download avisynth64...I go ahead and do that...then I run the benchmark again, and it does a few tests...but it's not even taxing my CPU? Please help

You have to go to "Test" folder then "Avisynth64" and install manually (read readme.txt)

I had this problem too.

@Darkwizzie

It would not pass at any vcore or upping all voltages. Seems there is a hard wall at 4.6.

Anyway I'm running 4.5 now without issues at all.

Passed 2 loops of x264 (2nd pass) with no problems. It's amazing 100mhz makes this much difference.

My settins:
Vrin 1.980
Vcore 1.320
Vring 1.150
Vrin LLC set to Extreme

4.6 Core Clock
4.1Uncore
C3 Enabled
Eist(or w/e is called) Enabled
^ this give me low volts&clock at idle


I will adjust the voltages a bit more later, I got tired of messing around in bios.
Edited by windowszp - 1/8/14 at 6:40pm
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