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Definitely did not get the golden chip or win anything on lottery

Tried a hard OC just to boot windows.
Set cache to 35, left voltage to auto
Set cores to 45, disabled all power states, all turbos, set power phase to optimized and LLC to level 5/10
Couldn't get into windows from 1.250, 1.275, 1.310, put a hard 1.350 on the vcore to see if the chip could actually 4.5ghz boot and it did.

Guess I will work my way down when I have some time off and get a stable OC around 4.4 or 4.5ghz with this chip.

Might have to wait till i get my loop set up again seeing as temps are ridiculous in idle tongue.gif
I'll would actually be content with a 4.5 around 1.35 but seeing as I haven't tuned and I can't stress test due to temps I will be enjoying stock haswell for a while biggrin.gif
Last but not least I'm going to try to boot with 4.6ghz on 1.35 before I'm out and see if theres any more potential in this chip
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It's indicative that your VRIN is too low (most likely). For 1.32vcore bios (~1.34vcore load) about 1.95 with llc should be good. Might work with less, might need a bit more. It's different CPU to CPU, and handled differently on different brand mobo's i believe

Same bsod 101 error running minerd for mins. Heading to 1.96vcin.

Voltage is still set to 1.319/1.320v, reading as 1.344v.
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

4770k running with stock cooler
Time to see if I can hit 4.5GHz with a decent voltage rolleyes.gif

On a side note, it's always fun to run intel burn test for 5 seconds to see your cores 91-90-87-82 C on stock cooler biggrin.gif

Baby, I accidently ran 1.35v adaptive and Prime95 together. Stared at the temps, it was stuck at low 50s. Then I realized I was staring at the minimum temperature column and it had hit 95C+. Shut it all off right after, lol.

 

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Just wanted to drop some half-a stats tongue.gif

Definitely did not get the golden chip or win anything on lottery

Tried a hard OC just to boot windows.
Set cache to 35, left voltage to auto
Set cores to 45, disabled all power states, all turbos, set power phase to optimized and LLC to level 5/10
Couldn't get into windows from 1.250, 1.275, 1.310, put a hard 1.350 on the vcore to see if the chip could actually 4.5ghz boot and it did.

Guess I will work my way down when I have some time off and get a stable OC around 4.4 or 4.5ghz with this chip.

Might have to wait till i get my loop set up again seeing as temps are ridiculous in idle tongue.gif
I'll would actually be content with a 4.5 around 1.35 but seeing as I haven't tuned and I can't stress test due to temps I will be enjoying stock haswell for a while biggrin.gif
Last but not least I'm going to try to boot with 4.6ghz on 1.35 before I'm out and see if theres any more potential in this chip
thumb.gif damned haswell

Of course, you know and I know the statistic I keep track of is the highest speed a person manages to achieve. Average OC being 4.55ghz give or take, but that is stable, not boot. I'm not too fond of guesstimating the ability of a CPU prematurely, but boot is quite a ways off from stability under 24/7 use. So if it is indeed true you need a 1.35v to boot at 4.5, that is below average chip.

 

We'll see, if you can hit 1.35v @ 4.5ghz you would end up the exact same voltage/speed my previous OC was before I kicked it up a notch to x46. Who the hell cares if it's 4.5ghz @ 1.1 or 1.35v if either way you're at x45? As long as you can stabilize x45, you're definately not a loser, no matter the voltage.

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Same bsod 101 error running minerd for mins. Heading to 1.96vcin.

Voltage is still set to 1.319/1.320v, reading as 1.344v.
When I had 1.35v, I used 2v to great effect. Now I am at 1.42v and the Vrin requirement just skyrocketed to 2.15v for any good gaming stability. Random, but just giving you one more example for reference.
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Damn darkwizzle, what are your temps like if you run prime95 blend for 20 mins? That voltage...

Edit: minerd has been running for 22 mins now without an error 101 bsod! That's 11 min more of stability lol. Guess i'll keep it going. How do you yourself determine what vcin your vcore voltage needs to be paired with?
Edited by Mysticode - 1/15/14 at 11:12pm
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Damn darkwizzle, what are your temps like if you run prime95 blend for 20 mins? That voltage...

Depends. It's waaaaay hotter on 1.35v adaptive compared to 1.42v manual. 1.35v adaptive went to like 1.5+v when hit with Prime load and it went to 95C in a few seconds probably before I hit emergency shutdown. 1.42 manual, TBH not sure. Probably would get up there though, 90C 95C peak temps over time. This is nondelidded on air.

 

I've actually used 1.5v manual voltage, but I did not stress on Prime (for obvious reasons). Hit 93C peak under chess. Ouch. Ironically it leads back to what I was talking about earlier, input voltage. See, I was at 4.6ghz, trying to get 4.6 to work. I went from 1.35 to 1.5v, and of course, various voltages in between. No stability. Once I bsoded at 1.5v @ 4.6 I was like wut? Brought voltage back down to 1.42v, brought input voltage up, and boom, for most intents and purposes I managed to jump over the voltage "wall". Not going for 4.7 for obvious reasons.

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Damn darkwizzle, what are your temps like if you run prime95 blend for 20 mins? That voltage...

Edit: minerd has been running for 22 mins now without an error 101 bsod! That's 11 min more of stability lol. Guess i'll keep it going. How do you yourself determine what vcin your vcore voltage needs to be paired with?

Normally 0.5 to 0.6 more than Vcore.
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Well minerd lasted 30min, now I'm looking at another bsod error 101 frown.gif.. Guess it's time to raise vcin by another notch.
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Normally 0.5 to 0.6 more than Vcore.

The gap gets bigger as vcore increases AFAIK

Mysticode, try 2.0 then 2.05 if you still have issue. Going 1.95 to 1.96 is not really an effective change, it's too marginal to make a real difference
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Baby, I accidently ran 1.35v adaptive and Prime95 together. Stared at the temps, it was stuck at low 50s. Then I realized I was staring at the minimum temperature column and it had hit 95C+. Shut it all off right after, lol.

Of course, you know and I know the statistic I keep track of is the highest speed a person manages to achieve. Average OC being 4.55ghz give or take, but that is stable, not boot. I'm not too fond of guesstimating the ability of a CPU prematurely, but boot is quite a ways off from stability under 24/7 use. So if it is indeed true you need a 1.35v to boot at 4.5, that is below average chip.

We'll see, if you can hit 1.35v @ 4.5ghz you would end up the exact same voltage/speed my previous OC was before I kicked it up a notch to x46. Who the hell cares if it's 4.5ghz @ 1.1 or 1.35v if either way you're at x45? As long as you can stabilize x45, you're definately not a loser, no matter the voltage.

Exactly tongue.gif far from stable but doable.
Putting the chip at 1.35 and it not booting would just make it worse, either that 4.4ghz wall or just not a great chip.
I did skip from 1.310 to 1.350 as I mentioned so who knows smile.gif Maybe it boots at 1.320 maybe I have room to get it stable under 1.35 with the proper LLC settings
The overclock standard does bother me, if a chip can hit 1ghz overclock past stock it's good to me. If it requires unbearable voltage like 1.5 to hit that 4.5ghz that's a whole other story. Especially with those 5ghz 1.2v lottery chips frown.giffrown.gif

Hopefully I can find nice settings to stabilize 4.5ghz will have to see with water and consider delidding, I'll post some actual stats when I end up testing this chip :0
  
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Maybe it boots at 1.320 maybe I have room to get it stable under 1.35 with the proper LLC settings

Haswell does not have an LLC setting for vcore, only for vrin
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