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Not at all! Delidd comes when I get the balls to not care about the chips warranty biggrin.gif
Don't get me started, sure ROG has all these great functions, I am just used to the simple MSI/GIGABYTE bios biggrin.gif ROG bios is just so much it's overwhelming

Can't say I'm that anxious on starting to test for OC on this chip. The settings will truly be a pain, with the temps i'm getting now on stock cooler idle 0.7v at 800mhz I don't think water will be enough for me frown.gif this chips gonna meet the vice, it will respect the hammer biggrin.gif

Well, that's what you ask for when you purchase a ROG board. Some people complained about all the options and such, and which it would be nice if that said 'ring bus' instead of 'cache ratio' etc, the wide range of options is definately one of the discernable features of a ROG board. I killed the spelling but Chrome spellcheck doesn't work on here so I'll keep talking anyways.

I think it's way too early to tell if a delid is in order. Unless you're planning IBT/Linpack/Prime tests or something. In that case, everybody needs a delid, lol.

 

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I get what you mean, I do IT Support as a profession. Enterprise wide systems support, however we deal in pre-built Dell boxes and RMA them if they have any problems tongue.gif

Just hit the 30min mark on MinerD again, no BSOD YET! *hold breath*. Based on previous vrin increases, I expect this thing to BSOD within 10 to 20 mins. I have a timer going each time to track the duration. Trying to do things scientifically as you mentioned.

My other settings are straight forward enough, I set BIOS defaults, and then set XMP profile BUT I dropped the automated 1866mhz down to 1600mhz for testing purposes. I kept the XMP timings on the ram. Next up I switched the multiplier, sync'd to all cores to 34x. Then I set vcore to 1.32v (system sees it as 1.319v). Powered up in stress tests the voltage is seen as 1.344v. After that, all I have been doing is gradually upping the vrin, and it's now at 1.96v.

This is my current CPUID read out, alongside MinerD doing it's thing: http://i.imgur.com/marHDiE.png

Thanks for your ongoing support, I want to get to the bottom of this mystery!

Edit: Fixed voltage numbers, messed up original post.

"Next up I switched the multiplier, sync'd to all cores to 34x. "
I think it's a typo, I"m assuming you have the cores set at 4.5ghz and the uncore set at 3.4ghz.

 

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Does 2.0 VRIN increase CPU core temps?

Either none or not enough to matter at all. If you need that stability you need it. Or lower that Uncore voltage to compensate if you're really on the borderline.

 

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Hey dark, go test 1.2vcore, 1.7vrin vs 1.2vcore, 2.0 vrin tongue.gif

no u u n00b :aarock: 

JK JK JK I WILL LATER

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If you've done scientific tests; can we see them?

If not, i don't think there's that much reason to believe temps are significantly changed

Either way it probably doesn't matter as there seems to be little reason to use more VRIN than you need, and it's impossible to use less VRIN than you need
If it were large I would have probably spotted a major temp change as I'm on 2.15v, lol.
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It's late, my apologies. I have not touched uncore. I meant to say multiplier is at 44x.

Argh I need sleep.... must stress test scientifically....
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It's late, my apologies. I have not touched uncore. I meant to say multiplier is at 44x.

Argh I need sleep.... must stress test scientifically....

Ok, if your uncore is overclocked by any chance, set it to stock. That can potentially hinder your overclock.

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If you've done scientific tests; can we see them?

If not, i don't think there's that much reason to believe temps are significantly changed

Either way it probably doesn't matter as there seems to be little reason to use more VRIN than you need, and it's impossible to use less VRIN than you need

I have not, but Sin has, and he had a rule of thumb but I can't remember it (like 2C for each 0.1V, something like that). It's buried somewhere in the Gigabyte overclocking thread.

Edit: Or maybe it was Stasio? It was last summer sometime, my memory is fuzzy.
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He said temps are slighty changed, Cyro. Not a big deal and not even worth mentioning TBH. But I will test so people can sleep at night. :hannibals 

 

The to do list be piling up.

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Havnt laid a finger on uncore. Should be whatever stock is.

This just in, bsod error 101 55mins into minerd! Going to 2.0v on vrin now as suggested.
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Havnt laid a finger on uncore. Should be whatever stock is.

This just in, bsod error 101 55mins into minerd! Going to 2.0v on vrin now as suggested.

Yes, but some motherboards overclock the uncore by default. For a peace of mind I recommend just going to the BIOS and setting that uncore as 34 instead of letting it go as 'auto'. Worst case scenario, you waste 30 seconds. Best case, you are now stable.

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Havnt laid a finger on uncore. Should be whatever stock is.

This just in, bsod error 101 55mins into minerd! Going to 2.0v on vrin now as suggested.

Are you sure your LLC isn't set to the lowest instead of the highest? Those levels are sometimes backwards, where 1 is the most (I think ASRock is that way). 2.0 seems like a lot for 1.35V.

And Cyro, a quick check at 40/1.2/1.7 and 40/1.2/2.0 put the difference at 2C pretty consistently while running IBT Very High. I'd try it at 1.35/1.85 and 1.35/2.15 but that puts the CPU temps high enough to cause the rad fans to spin up and that might screw up the consistency.

Edit: Checked 1.35/1.85 and 1.35/2.15 and got the same 2C difference.
Edited by Forceman - 1/16/14 at 1:16am
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Ok min and max cpu cache ratio have been set to 44x.
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Ok min and max cpu cache ratio have been set to 44x.

I said 34, not 44. :hairysmil As my guide recommends, uncore to stock, making sure it's on stock while overclocking the core.

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