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awkward... vice method chips PCB's. Razor only gouges if you don't apply pressure to the IHS as you wiggle smile.gif

If you're doing the vice method properly, then it shouldn't chip the PCB....It really only needs firm taps on the block of wood to break the seal of the glue....With the razor method, a twitch can render your CPU unusable....
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If you're doing the vice method properly, then it shouldn't chip the PCB....It really only needs firm taps on the block of wood to break the seal of the glue....With the razor method, a twitch can render your CPU unusable....

there's enough people in the delid thread reporting chipped pcb's to suggest it's not due to user error as much as the method is simply not a safe as some make it out to be.

to the same degree, a twitch using the vice method can also leave you with a brick
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Imagine if Intel just used bloody solder this whole time tongue.gif

Can you imagine how cold Ivy and Haswell would be? biggrin.gif
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Imagine if Intel just used bloody solder this whole time tongue.gif

Can you imagine how cold Ivy and Haswell would be? biggrin.gif

ugh, ikr
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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

there's enough people in the delid thread reporting chipped pcb's to suggest it's not due to user error as much as the method is simply not a safe as some make it out to be.

to the same degree, a twitch using the vice method can also leave you with a brick

Well, I delidded mine using the vice method, and there weren't any marks whatsoever on the PCB when I was finished. So just because a bunch of people seem to have made the same mistake, somehow it flaws the proper method? Keep in mind that with the razor method, if you clip one of those components on the top of the PCB (next to the die), then the CPU is scrap....

I've seen more success stories with the vice method, than the razor method....

Neither method is really safe, but after trying both of them myself, the vice method is more forgiving - provided you're not going at your CPU like a caveman....biggrin.gif
Edited by blaze2210 - 1/18/14 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

Probably Hwmonitor being drunk.


This is where my VCCIN value is at.

When I change eventual input voltage, my hwinfo64 is reading it as VCOREREFIN frown.gif then the vccin on mine shows as 0.9
  
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Well, I delidded mine using the vice method, and there weren't any marks whatsoever on the PCB when I was finished. So just because a bunch of people seem to have made the same mistake, somehow it flaws the proper method? Keep in mind that with the razor method, if you clip one of those components on the top of the PCB (next to the die), then the CPU is scrap....

I've seen more success stories with the vice method, than the razor method....

Neither method is really safe, but after trying both of them myself, the vice method is more forgiving - provided you're not going at your CPU like a caveman....biggrin.gif

SAME! it was easy as pie to crack that sucker open and scrape all that black tar off of there, lowered my temps 15 degrees easily..Use Oak (I used pine, but that's because that was all my neighbor had in his garage)

Also, I've Upped my BLCK to 112 now from 111, I've lowered my vcore to 1.35 and uncore volts to 1.20

Only problem is...with having the BLCK at 112 now...is...my idle temps are 37 to 40 as opposed to 29 to 31 before..i know idle temps mean nothing and they don't cause on load my temps still never get above low 50s, and usually is at high 40s. my total GHz is 4599 or something and my DRAM is now 1790...I think that if I went to 113 that would push my DRAM to 1808 and I am almost certain that above 1800 is a no-go for my Corsair Vengeance 1600 DDR3s I may try, but I don't need to, just really liking the high BLCK
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Just wanted to update, my 4770k gets 4.8 GHz at 1.248V. My 4670k gets 4.3 GHz at 1.2V. My jaw dropped at how bad my 4670k is, so depressing. Good thing its in my brothers rig and not mine tongue.gif.
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My 4670k gets 4.3 GHz at 1.2V. My jaw dropped at how bad my 4670k is, so depressing.

Average-ish isn't bad. 4.8 under 1.25vcore load is an anomaly, and and chip that can do that is essentially certain to do 5.0 on air with unthreatening volts
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Just wanted to update, my 4770k gets 4.8 GHz at 1.248V. My 4670k gets 4.3 GHz at 1.2V. My jaw dropped at how bad my 4670k is, so depressing. Good thing its in my brothers rig and not mine tongue.gif.

How the hell is your CPU bad? If you manage to hit 4.8ghz you are way above average and your vcore for that is under average. I needed 1.25v for 4.3 and 1.42v for 4.5. Average is 1.3 for 4.55.

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