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name="VeerK" url="/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics/8580#post_21611421"]Just wanted to update, my 4770k gets 4.8 GHz at 1.248V. My 4670k gets 4.3 GHz at 1.2V. My jaw dropped at how bad my 4670k is, so depressing. Good thing its in my brothers rig and not mine tongue.gif.

whoaa this one hell of a chip ..
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You can get all rude and snide if you want to, but I was merely making a couple of suggestions....You want to talk about how many posts I made in here, that's fine - how many of them were about the EXACT same thing? Answer: none. I haven't repeated myself a single time. As for the manufacturer's forum: have you even tried looking there? I ask this because I know for a FACT that they (the ROG forums) contain some useful information - especially pertaining to the ROG boards....I learned quite a bit from there when I was initially overclocking my 4670k....So you can take offense to what I have posted here all you want to, but that's your own prerogative - not my intention. I enjoy the pursuit of knowledge, and do quite a bit of research in order to gain it.

Moral of this story: you can choose to take offense to my comments, or you can take my suggestions to try to further your own knowledge and potentially find your answers. cheers.gif

Please keep your subjective interpretation of my response to your comments as an opinion not a post on the forum smile.gif .
You barked at me "dude" then call me rude and snide when I reply in the same manner. Hypocrisy.
Let's continue ignore the fact I stated I searched in multiple places. Why are you so wound up because I posted the same question multiple times within a 20hour span ?
Unlike yourself, some other OCN users extended the hand to post me some useful information.
Now people who search the question I have on google, will be directed here where they can use that information towards their research.

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For Mr Hulk, this is my HWInfo Read out: http://imgur.com/Fo3wayL

VRIN is showing up as VCOREREFIN, at 1.984v (I have it set to 2.0v in the bios).


Not seeing my uncore though, not sure if it's supposed to.

Thanks again thumb.gif
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Yeah sorry hardware monitor vs hwinfo.

Also was doing some loops of x264 on 1.38v, and my PC hard froze. Rebooted and Windows is reporting an error bsod 101.

Should I quit upping voltage at this point, and just stick 4.4ghz? Or should i go beyond 1.38v vcore? I'm not sure what's acceptable voltage for 24/7 operation, I don't want to do damage to the chip long term. Thoughts?

I've been seeing in many forums people treating Haswell 1.35 like a 1.45 on ivybridge. I don't have enough experience with this chip and I really am not sure. Wish I did know, I'd like to find out the "high voltage" levels without being part of the "my haswell died" club biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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The difference in performance won't truly be noticeable between 4.4 and 4.5 while gaming and doing daily tasks. If you render, it'll be a bit slower, but not much. I'd say stick with 4.4. Lower voltage = less heat = less power consumption = lower fans speeds = quieter rig = happy computer user.

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Lol Darkwizzle...

Any nuggets of advice to help me get 45x stable? Do I bother upping the volts to the 1.4v zone? Or try something lower and other settings?
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Yep, I dropped down from 4.6 to 4.4 yesterday because we're going through a pretty hectic heatwave. Can't tell the difference in any FPS or even MMO games I'm playing
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Lol Darkwizzle...

Any nuggets of advice to help me get 45x stable? Do I bother upping the volts to the 1.4v zone? Or try something lower and other settings?

Arn't you the guy that required super high input voltages for like 1.35v? You can do that test to see if increasing vcore is helping or not changing or decreasing stability. If it's making it worse you probably need yet more Vrin which may or may not be safe.

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Yep, I dropped down from 4.6 to 4.4 yesterday because we're going through a pretty hectic heatwave. Can't tell the difference in any FPS or even MMO games I'm playing
People live in the southern hemisphere? :h34r-smi
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Arn't you the guy that required super high input voltages for like 1.35v? You can do that test to see if increasing vcore is helping or not changing or decreasing stability. If it's making it worse you probably need yet more Vrin which may or may not be safe.

How do I check input voltages for my current set bios voltage? Not exactly following you.
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How do I check input voltages for my current set bios voltage? Not exactly following you.

There are many people that post on here, I lose track of who's problems are who's. IIRC your OC required 2.1+v Vrin for 1.35 or so Vcore. If that's the case, you can try to figure out whether higher Vcore is helping stability, but if it's not then your only option is to include raising Vrin which may or may not be safe if you really go past 2.2.

 

If you have no idea what I'm talking about or I am thinking of the wrong guy, then I'm talking about doing that last ditch test to figure out what is needed for stability. You run 5 runs of x264, each 'run' here being running passes until you Bsod. If you're bsoding more often at 1.4v than 1.38v consistently, then Vrin is required. If stability is going up at higher Vcore, then you need higher Vcore. Use a clock or a stopwatch to measure the time til' bsod.

 

This is a time consuming but relatively insightful way of figuring out the issue. Which is why it's called the last ditch effort.


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I'm the guy you told to use 2.0 vrin to make my 44x 1.32v vcore. Also you said I should set uncore to 34x.

Does you suggestion to test out 2.2vrin on a 45x still valid? Should I keep to 1.32vcore or up it (I havn't been able to find stability on even 1.38v vcore...
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I'm the guy you told to use 2.0 vrin to make my 44x 1.32v vcore. Also you said I should set uncore to 34x.

Does you suggestion to test out 2.2vrin on a 45x still valid? Should I keep to 1.32vcore or up it (I havn't been able to find stability on even 1.38v vcore...

Ah yes, I remember correctly. Your x44 setting is stable right, so no matter what, you have that setting to fall back on. What I would do is the same procedure I outlined a post ago. Start testing stability at 1.35 or 1.37v and 2.0 vrin. Make that your baseline when testing 4.5. Now start running x264 and note how long until bsod, and do this five times. Average our the time til' bsod. Then change one setting... let's try 1.4v while keeping vrin at 2.0 to see whether increasing Vcore from 1.35/1.37 to 1.4 increases stability. If yes, you needed that Vcore increase. If no, then Vrin is probably affecting the stability. Then see if an increase in Vrin from 2.0 to 2.1v increases or decreases stability.

 

The issue here is, I don't know when Vrin values start to become unsafe. If I were you, I'd call it quits if tests show I need much higher Vrin but I'm already at 2.15v because that is where I draw the line for myself. 

 

The reason why I suggest simply upping the voltage to 1.35 or 1.37 instead of using x44's voltage is because there is no way x45 will be stable with the same exact Vcore as x44, so it's a waste of time to even guess that setting.

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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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