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I haven't had a BSOD after being x264 stable. However, people who have in certain applications only need .002 to gain full stability for their uses. I don't see a problem with that. It's not like they are BSODing every hour after passing 20x of x264. They might BSOD after 5-6 hours and then increase it by such a small increment that it doesn't change anything besides not BSODing again.

Is there any other programs people are using after the completion of multiple x264 runs?
You know what I mean right? I don't want to pass 100 x264 runs, crash on bf4, add vcore, use real world applications then crash in the middle of something work related because I loaded 8 programs at the same time biggrin.gif
  
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Is there any other programs people are using after the completion of multiple x264 runs?
You know what I mean right? I don't want to pass 100 x264 runs, crash on bf4, add vcore, use real world applications then crash in the middle of something work related because I loaded 8 programs at the same time biggrin.gif

Considering I could render a video, be watching a video, not to mention a million background processes like steam etc, and have 20-30 tabs open in google chrome and not crash I think x264 is a great way to stress your system. If you have to change your vcore it is by such a small amount that it really affects nothing besides that one BSOD that happened out of the blue after the system had been used for quite awhile.
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I just try to stick with dictionary definitions of words.

Stability isn't subjective. When you have a stable job, you receive stable paychecks. You don't randomly get payed at different days of the month.

Just because your computer can handle the applications you run on it and can not handle the applications I run on mine, It is not fair for you to call your overclock "stable". It's acceptable for what you do, but bending the definition of words seems wrong. Stability isn't subjective at all, thats more of an opinion. There's no 50% stable or 98.7% stable, its 0% or 100%

So is everyone relying on x264 to find "acceptable stability" and just increasing vcore if any bsod occurs or have you guys came up with a process beyond this to test haswell further?

You're kinda right. There is 100% stable and 0% stable. But guess what, my overclock is 100% stable for what I do. wink.gif

Also, what do you use that you think my system couldn't handle? Is rendering videos and gaming not good enough for you? Do you render 1,000 videos at the same time or something?
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this is the first time im hearing of x264 lol never opened the stressing tab redface.gif

bout to try it, pretty sure i can run it
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The point here is:
 

1. Some people are claiming instability after running Prime for a long period of time.

 

2. Quite a few people will be thermally crushed by Prime and therefore it was never an option to begin with. 

 

3. If you want to get the highest multiplier you can, often that means forgoing prime in order to get a higher Vcore.

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Is there any other programs people are using after the completion of multiple x264 runs?
You know what I mean right? I don't want to pass 100 x264 runs, crash on bf4, add vcore, use real world applications then crash in the middle of something work related because I loaded 8 programs at the same time biggrin.gif

If you have BF4 you can try it - I was x264 stable but still crashed on BF4.

And my 2 cents - there is no 100% stable. The only way to be 100% stable is to be running stability tests 100% of the time. Otherwise how do you know your 900 hour Prime stable overclock won't fail at the 901 hour mark? If the system doesn't crash doing the things you use it for, then it is "stable enough".
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Damn guys, I go out for one day, and have to catch up on like 5 pages of mostly you guys arguing about stability! How unstable of all of you! Let's all just agree to disagree and keep on making this thread one big science fair project.

On a side note, x264 passed 20 loops for me at 42x and 1.255v vcore. I call that a very good base "stable" reference. Time to load up my CPU and GPU Litecoin mining applications all night and see if I BSOD or not! This is my real world test for 24/7 stability, as I have not yet installed BF4 (I actually won a copy from the Litecoin mining pool that I am a part of, woot!)

Goodnight fellow OCers.
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If you have BF4 you can try it - I was x264 stable but still crashed on BF4.

And my 2 cents - there is no 100% stable. The only way to be 100% stable is to be running stability tests 100% of the time. Otherwise how do you know your 900 hour Prime stable overclock won't fail at the 901 hour mark? If the system doesn't crash doing the things you use it for, then it is "stable enough".
Stability exists. Running prime large FFT will stress memory and uncore. Small FFT will stress L1 and L2 cache and core while not stressing memory. 6 hours of each and Ive yet to ever crash, ever. Still, need 1.450V on core and uncore to run 46 but its solid stable in anything i run.
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Hulk always brings good discussion to threads... Those of you worried about top end voltages, I beg you to reference Sin's guide here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1401976/the-gigabyte-z87-haswell-overclocking-oc-guide


As for stability, you guys seriously need to chill out about this. Why does it create such an argument? If the guy wants to run 33 hours of prime, let him run prime 33 hours. But if that's how you want to be stable, then don't argue with everyone else who thinks there are better ways out. Stability is all up to the user in the end, but many people in this thread including myself have been using haswell since release, know the best forms of stability. Prime was the number 1 stability check for AMD when I had it, but now it isn't the case... Just my opinion. And to say BF4 is NOT a good stability test is just stupid. BF4 is a huge stress on the entire system that will run all things at near max capacity. Yes it has bugs, but if your OC fails in a game then something needs correcting (mainly just because all I do is mine and game on my pc lol).

Edit: DarkWizzy, perhaps ask Sin if you could use his voltage chart there in your guide. It might clear up a lot of confusion...
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The relation was people test their memory tests instantly to check for memory errors. Yet with their CPU they accept less than full stability and just deem it "stable"

Memory either works or it does not, and is easy to check for. CPU, there's no catch-all way of stability testing everything ideally and quickly without synthetically testing small parts of the cpu to an extreme degree, and if there was, we would all jump on it
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Yet with their CPU they accept less than full stability and just deem it "stable"

I can run everything, everything to my knowledge aside from one thing: If i remove my power limit (which only triggers in prime small fft with avx enabled in OS, and linx with avx2) then it will crash in those programs.
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Ok, my uncore is set to 31. If I set it to 32 it will be an "overclocking failure" in the BIOS ~ starts and restarts... because of my BLCK set at 112, my uncore is effectively 35 running at 4.704 GHz

If I want to Raise the uncore (current volts at 1.22), then the Only thing that I can do is to raise the voltage, correct?? Because the wall is at 32 with a 112 BLCK set. What is an acceptable voltage for uncore? I've recently ran it at 1.39 no problem, but I see/read that most have it WAY low, stock voltage even. So 1.39 scares me a little, but my temps never get above 50-something on load (not 100% load because I NEVER run anything at 100% I don't use Prime!!!). I don't play BF4, I don't play "Cry-sis" What is an acceptable uncore for 4.704 GHz? I know Asus would tell you that 300 to 500 MHz below 4700 is... But I am currently at 3500 not 4400 or 4200... Is this wrong, cause it works (no crashes - the crashes were coming from Adaptive, which I solved by switching to manual, and other crashes were coming from the GTX780 -- being Too overclocked (voltage, which I have now set back to +0 and not +38)

But I'm thinking that I may get a better "performance" ever so slight by putting the uncore in the range that Asus recommends, but I know that they are a big corporation and corporations don't know sh**
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