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Sorry. Good luck. Did you drop the Vcore AND increase the Input Voltage?

HWInfo reports 1.44v under load so I dropped it a tiny bit. I really don't feel dropping 1.448 to 1.440 will go from stable to unstable as both voltages are way too much either way.

 

Forceman:

If I crash again this time I will up the ram voltage. The last few times I have not been getting Bsods which is not good as there is no Bsod code.

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Bsod with 2vrin and 1.55v on ram. Still 9c Bsod code. :'(

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Bsod with 2vrin and 1.55v on ram. Still 9c Bsod code. :'(
could you have degraded the chip with those high volts?
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could you have degraded the chip with those high volts?

Well I did hit 1.504v and 100C on accident for 60 seconds, loooooooooool.

That was my bad. I was at HWInfo and I was looking at the column for minimum temps whereas the same spot would've been max temps for HWMonitor. The 100C was at like 1.45v when I was doing Prime, I was going to stop before I hit 95C but I was staring at minimum temps lol.

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Mistakes? BS, can you explain the 0.000V Vcore values reported in the screen shots above? At least I take the time to document my settings and post them for others to see, while a bunch of you guys hide your settings and refuse to post any screenshots. How many members have even posted shots of HWMonitor or HWinfo along with their stress tests? Actually a very small percent. I went through the pictures in both threads yesterday and compared them to the results and several members have reported their CPUz values (FTW 420 is the most recent), so don't act like I am the only one. So in my opinion someone like yourself that refuses to post any shots of stress tests shouldn't be trusted because you are obviously covering up for your POS chip. So don't come at me with this crap above until we see some of your real Vcore stress test shots pal.

I try to help others as much as I can and I get condescending remarks like this one, well I guess the rep difference between us speaks for itself. You keep cracking jokes, acting like the peanut gallery, and pointing fingers at others and I'll try to make real contributions to the forum. Thanks for basically nothing...
Rage kids gonna rage biggrin.gif I have posted some screenshots actually. The darkwizzie actually saw it and posted in the first post, dont ask me why its not picture verified pls. ALL my voltages are from hwinfo, cpu-z, never bios settings. Im not covering anything, my chip is probably mediocre and im FINE with that. Calling my bs because you havent seen one is just LOL. You really think i would FAKE my results if they are mediocre? biggrin.gif YOU are the one thats helping no one with DEM BIOS voltages and messing with the peoples expectations. And how the hell did you come up with the stupid idea that i think you are the only one? Lol Asking me do the stress test again for the sake of you is really not worth it, since im not proving ANYTHING and not claiming 4.6 1.2v linpack stable or anything like that. And i really think i didnt come onto you that hursh, liek i said, mistakes are made, it can happen to everyone, why do you have hard time accepting that? Werent you the one who didnt post screenshots after i criticized you? biggrin.gif A small critique is actually good sometimes. Seems like im very good at pulling peoples buttons, haha biggrin.gif Chill, being mad at topics like this is pretty nerdish if you ask me biggrin.gif (Speaking in general, not about you.)
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BTW, someone on ASUS ROG forums just mentioned that it has been "rumored" that Crysis 3 and Grid2 actually do use AVX instructions. This explains why I got those voltage spikes.
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I know your type very well, and you still think that I am wrong. There are a few posts in this forum and the Haswell owners forum in which I even mentioned the extra Vcore reading while using Manual, but people told me I was confusing them. For the record my 4.6 overclock is still 1.232V Vcore and 1.223V VID Linpack, but I ignore the Vcore reading because it doesn't change if I change the Vcore, and it has strange (fluctuating) readings while on Manual. I just don't like to made out to be something that I am not. I am not competing with anyone either, but everyone wants the lowest possible voltage for obvious reasons. I have never thought of this as a contest and I don't care which voltage is used in the results. I know what voltages I use and what temps I get. I try to help others with their overclocks and I have always documented my results and findings to share them with everyone else. I admit that there is still a learning curve involved with Haswell, although at this point my OCs are basically finished.

I am fine with debating or discussing different aspects of this hobby and I have done so with other members, but it is difficult to do so with you. Maybe there is a sarcasm (or tone) lost in posting in forums like this and maybe I am over reacting a little. I have had others react with hostility at my jokes before. But yeah, I am not trying to doctor my results knowingly. I gain nothing from doing so...

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Why cpu-z is showing more volts than aida CPUID and which one is correct, im running aida 64 fpu + cpu
Testing 4.6ghz aida shows my real bios vcore (1.23) and cpu-z 1.248 is cpu-z correct? I thought haswell can only pool more volts if power saving modes are turned on mine are disabled. If so is there a way to fix it with the UD3H?
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Yeah, that is undoubtedly occurring to us all. It is always going to go a little over your adaptive entry, more with synthetic stress tests. The trick is to use manual voltage to find your clock/voltage and test stability and then switch over to adaptive for real world use. It will sometimes draw a little more (0.020-0.050) in Aida64 or Prime while in manual, but not nearly as much as adaptive. I was reading that this is a product of the chip having an internal voltage regulator vs the external model of past versions. This eliminates voltage droop and the need to mess around with LLC and other Digi+ options so I suppose it isn't all bad.

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About a reading not changing for a +0.005v change in the BIOS setting despite it obviously doing something because crashes stop, that's just the sensor reading not being high resolution enough. Despite the reading being displayed as a number with three decimal places, that's not what it can actually do. It's jumping in pretty large steps, and the steps are looking weird, perhaps because of being binary internally, not base 10.
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I know your type very well, and you still think that I am wrong. There are a few posts in this forum and the Haswell owners forum in which I even mentioned the extra Vcore reading while using Manual, but people told me I was confusing them. For the record my 4.6 overclock is still 1.232V Vcore and 1.223V VID Linpack, but I ignore the Vcore reading because it doesn't change if I change the Vcore, and it has strange (fluctuating) readings while on Manual. I just don't like to made out to be something that I am not. I am not competing with anyone either, but everyone wants the lowest possible voltage for obvious reasons. I have never thought of this as a contest and I don't care which voltage is used in the results. I know what voltages I use and what temps I get. I try to help others with their overclocks and I have always documented my results and findings to share them with everyone else. I admit that there is still a learning curve involved with Haswell, although at this point my OCs are basically finished.

I am fine with debating or discussing different aspects of this hobby and I have done so with other members, but it is difficult to do so with you. Maybe there is a sarcasm (or tone) lost in posting in forums like this and maybe I am over reacting a little. I have had others react with hostility at my jokes before. But yeah, I am not trying to doctor my results knowingly. I gain nothing from doing so...

Here are a few posts to refresh your memory;
Yes, aida is wrong, cpuz is correct.. the 1.64 though.. Newest version shows the vid or whateva. And you are over reacting, thats for sure, though i may be responsible a little aswell biggrin.gif There always wll be confusion in overclocking results, unless we document them very strictly. But whatever really, i dont even care if you guys BS your results, sometimes i just point fingers.. And you see bangbangplay, i wasnt really completely off with my critisizm, not rubbing it into, jsut saying.. Sure its possible to get golden chip, but i would suggest showing pics to confirm.
 
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Yes, aida is wrong, cpuz is correct.. the 1.64 though.. Newest version shows the vid or whateva. And you are over reacting, thats for sure, though i may be responsible a little aswell biggrin.gif There always wll be confusion in overclocking results, unless we document them very strictly. But whatever really, i dont even care if you guys BS your results, sometimes i just point fingers.. And you see bangbangplay, i wasnt really completely off with my critisizm, not rubbing it into, jsut saying.. Sure its possible to get golden chip, but i would suggest showing pics to confirm.

Well that is the issue, it seems that everyone was wrong at one point or another, so don't shine the red hot light of shame in only my direction. I know we butt heads because we likely have similar personalities and I admit that I am very heard headed and not only when it comes to computers. With that being said I am not looking for a dispute or an argument here. I never once knowingly exaggerated my results and that is why I take the time to post them. I never once said that I have a golden chip either, I said it seemed to be a good overclocker based on preliminary runs.

I am still unsure about the Vcore rating as it appears on my board (I can't speak for everyone else), and the only response I have gotten to date about it from Raja @ Asus told me to just follow the CPUz value and not to worry about the rest (AI Suite, HWMonitor, etc). He echoed my words that the elevated voltage could be off, and that it is out of our control because of the FIVR. Wasn't necessarily the answer I was looking for, but hey.

I know this isn't a benchmark contest, but having posted my results in some of those forums (Valley Bechmark Forum for example) I know how crazy people can get when it comes to competitions. My intention has been to just help others and throw my info into the pot, people can do whatever they want with it. But unless there are set rules and specific settings (programs) set in place from the get go there will be all types of varying entries and the data will undoubtedly be skewed. Based on the absence of HWMonitor and HWinfo in screenshots I am willing to bet that a large percent of the entries are the CPU core voltage value from CPUz.
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