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New to the thread. Hi!

core multi: 47
core v: 1.382
cache: 34
cache v: auto
ram is auto
Asus z87-a

It passed a run of x264. Tried again and it kept throwing 0x101s. I up the corev. Try again. 0x9c. I up the System agent offset (that is qpi or vtt for this model?) the 9cs stop. Goes back to bsod 101 over and over and over up to 1.396 where the thermals are iffy. Feels like I should be trying something else, but I'm not sure of what since I'm new at this.

Any advice?

Hi, welcome to the thread and the forum. What settings did you put down for x46, I'm assuming you found a fully stable x46 before going to x47. Also, what is your eventual input voltage?

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You are required to manually set the VRIN (asus calls it VCCIN) and VRIN llc (vccin llc?) which is the second most important voltage for haswell. Try 2.05 with max llc.
I was under the impression that all the voltage regulation happened on the chip and our LLC on motherboards was almost useless. I had also watched that JJ video talking about LLC on a ROG board and he mentioned to either use 1 but leave to auto since it made no difference.


Should we truly see a change in stability from level 1-max? I'm going to be starting to OC next week if my chip does not sell and want to make sure I have all my information in check.

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I was under the impression that all the voltage regulation happened on the chip and our LLC on motherboards was almost useless. I had also watched that JJ video talking about LLC on a ROG board and he mentioned to either use 1 but leave to auto since it made no difference.


Should we truly see a change in stability from level 1-max? I'm going to be starting to OC next week if my chip does not sell and want to make sure I have all my information in check.

There is 2 x 480 rads with 16 GT-AP15's waiting to see how hot haswell will get biggrin.gif

It's not an issue of stability so much as it's a matter of optimising voltage parameters you set.

LLC7 (usually the Auto setting) should almost always result in no vdroop under load. LLC8 should almost always result in a slight bump to voltages once the system is being taxed.

setting higher LLC simply ensures that the voltages you input at the bios are actually being hit under load. Lots of people will see vdroop on VRIN, SA and I/O's if they set a LLC below 7, which means you need to increase voltages in the bios higher to account for it. It simply seems redundant to 'not' ensure you have a high level of LLC, imo.
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I was under the impression that all the voltage regulation happened on the chip and our LLC on motherboards was almost useless. I had also watched that JJ video talking about LLC on a ROG board and he mentioned to either use 1 but leave to auto since it made no difference.


Should we truly see a change in stability from level 1-max? I'm going to be starting to OC next week if my chip does not sell and want to make sure I have all my information in check.

There is 2 x 480 rads with 16 GT-AP15's waiting to see how hot haswell will get biggrin.gif

I already did a voltage comparison for Vrin on my mobo with LLC, i put it in the first page.

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New to overclocking, currently testing a 4770k on an MSI Z87-G45. A few quick questions...

Do I want to adjust ALL voltages in the BIOS to override? At the moment I only have vcore and ring overridden and set manually. All others are set to auto.

Anything I should be doing with voltage offsets? While stressing with prime95 my vcore is ~0.025v above my VID. I'm guessing this is something to do with offsets since adaptive is off for my vcore BIOS setting. There's also a THERMAL adaptive setting above the C states in my BIOS, I'm guessing this adaptive is okay to keep on?

When I reach my preferred overclock I will obviously be stressing overnight, but in the intermediary steps when I'm upping the multiplier one at a time, and then upping the voltage if the new multiplier crashes, how long should I be stressing for? So far I've only been running the 3 prime95 tests for ~15 minutes each.

Lastly, any easy-to-use CPU stress tests other than prime95? This is the only one I'm using at the moment because I was having trouble with x264 what with it telling me it couldn't find my avisynth install.

Edit: Forgot one more thing. After I have a stable overclock, can I turn my memory's XMP profile back on? And should I expect crashes if I do?
Edited by JIDFWarrior - 1/22/14 at 6:36pm
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New to overclocking, currently testing a 4770k on an MSI Z87-G45. A few quick questions...

Do I want to adjust ALL voltages in the BIOS to override? At the moment I only have vcore and ring overridden and set manually. All others are set to auto.

Anything I should be doing with voltage offsets? While stressing with prime95 my vcore is ~0.025v above my VID. I'm guessing this is something to do with offsets since adaptive is off for my vcore BIOS setting. There's also a THERMAL adaptive setting above the C states in my BIOS, I'm guessing this adaptive is okay to keep on?

When I reach my preferred overclock I will obviously be stressing overnight, but in the intermediary steps when I'm upping the multiplier one at a time, and then upping the voltage if the new multiplier crashes, how long should I be stressing for? So far I've only been running the 3 prime95 tests for ~15 minutes each.

Lastly, any easy-to-use CPU stress tests other than prime95? This is the only one I'm using at the moment because I was having trouble with x264 what with it telling me it couldn't find my avisynth install.

Edit: Forgot one more thing. After I have a stable overclock, can I turn my memory's XMP profile back on? And should I expect crashes if I do?

Check out the first page of this thread....
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New to overclocking, currently testing a 4770k on an MSI Z87-G45. A few quick questions...

Do I want to adjust ALL voltages in the BIOS to override? At the moment I only have vcore and ring overridden and set manually. All others are set to auto.

Anything I should be doing with voltage offsets? While stressing with prime95 my vcore is ~0.025v above my VID. I'm guessing this is something to do with offsets since adaptive is off for my vcore BIOS setting. There's also a THERMAL adaptive setting above the C states in my BIOS, I'm guessing this adaptive is okay to keep on?

When I reach my preferred overclock I will obviously be stressing overnight, but in the intermediary steps when I'm upping the multiplier one at a time, and then upping the voltage if the new multiplier crashes, how long should I be stressing for? So far I've only been running the 3 prime95 tests for ~15 minutes each.

Lastly, any easy-to-use CPU stress tests other than prime95? This is the only one I'm using at the moment because I was having trouble with x264 what with it telling me it couldn't find my avisynth install.

Edit: Forgot one more thing. After I have a stable overclock, can I turn my memory's XMP profile back on? And should I expect crashes if I do?

There's not much other voltages on the mobo that can even be set as override. Others let you set in a value, but there's no explicit option for "override" IIRC. Yes, vocre and VID. I have your mobo but I don't remember Thermal adaptive setting. Sure, you can use Prime95 test like that but you might get temp limited at higher voltages. Yes, you can turn XMP back on after OC is done and 99% of the time it'll work without any more adjustments needed.

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Check out the first page of this thread....

Hey Blaze, I'm new to overclocking my 4770k. I want 5.2ghz and I'm using a 212 EVO cooler, which should be plenty. Can you come to my place and do it for me?

Thanks.
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Hey Blaze, I'm new to overclocking my 4770k. I want 5.2ghz and I'm using a 212 EVO cooler, which should be plenty. Can you come to my place and do it for me?

Thanks.

Sure, why not....
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Check out the first page of this thread....

I read the entire guide. These were questions related to options not explicitly stated or emphasized...
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There's not much other voltages on the mobo that can even be set as override. Others let you set in a value, but there's no explicit option for "override" IIRC. Yes, vocre and VID. I have your mobo but I don't remember Thermal adaptive setting. Sure, you can use Prime95 test like that but you might get temp limited at higher voltages. Yes, you can turn XMP back on after OC is done and 99% of the time it'll work without any more adjustments needed.

Awesome. Thanks for the quick reply!
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