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Great guide.
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

Bsod with 2vrin and 1.55v on ram. Still 9c Bsod code. :'(

Have you run Memtest on the RAM? Maybe the Vcore is too high now? Seems like strange behavior, and you're getting a pretty unusual crash code - don't see many reports of 9C. Wish I could remember when I got the only one I ever got.

For what it's worth, 9C is a machine check exception, and it sounds like it is similar to a 124.
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In Windows Vista and later operating systems, this bug check occurs only in the following circumstances.

•WHEA is not fully initialized.
•All processors that rendezvous have no errors in their registers.
For other circumstances, this bug check has been replaced with bug Check 0x124: WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR in Windows Vista and later operating systems.

For more information about Machine Check Architecture (MCA), see the Intel or AMD Web sites.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff559323(v=vs.85).aspx

The MCA stuff isn't very helpful though:
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In computing, Machine Check Architecture (MCA) refers to a mechanism in which the CPU reports hardware errors to the operating system.

Intel's Pentium 4, Intel Xeon, P6 family processors as well as the Itanium architecture implement a machine check architecture that provides a mechanism for detecting and reporting hardware (machine) errors, such as: system bus errors, ECC errors, parity errors, cache errors, and translation lookaside buffer errors. It consists of a set of model-specific registers (MSRs) that are used to set up machine checking and additional banks of MSRs used for recording errors that are detected

Edited by Forceman - 8/19/13 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Anusha View Post

BTW, someone on ASUS ROG forums just mentioned that it has been "rumored" that Crysis 3 and Grid2 actually do use AVX instructions. This explains why I got those voltage spikes.

Just folding takes a toll on my CPU's temps. While playing Grid 2 or Crysis 3, my 4770K @ 4.3Ghz (1.168V) still doesn't break 58C at the hottest core.
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Hey Wizzie I tweaked my settings;

BangBangPlay

CPU: i5-4670K
Core Multi: 47
Core VID: 1.276V
Core Voltage: 1.296V
Uncore Multi:43
Uncore Voltage: 1.193V
Cooler: H100i
Stability: IBT
Batch: 313
Ram Speed: 1600 MHz XMP
Picture Verified: Yes

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Why not just ask everyone for their VID and the Core Voltage? That way we can get a better idea of the variation that may exist and see if it varies board to board, chip to chip.
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Ok Guys.

Please don't argue on my thread if you can help it. We're all fellow geeks here, kk?

 

Forceman: The problem for me here is...

I run same exact settings... but with x45, NO CRASH. That's with 1866, 41 uncore, etc. 

 

Sorry guys I randomly woke up and went to the computer, going back to sleep lol. I'll add the settings and do the other stuff later.

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So I dropped the uncore multi back to default 35x from the 39x my mobo automatically upped it to.

Vcore still on 1.22 for 4.5Ghz. Prime made it through 9 hours this time as opposed to the 4 hours it made it through before the changes. I'd like to get to 12 hours minimum though before I call it stable.

I've got it running again now but I've set CPU Input voltage to 1.8V as opposed to auto and uncore voltage to 1.15 which was recommended in the Gigabyte OC guide and I'll see if that gets me further. Fingers crossed!

Is the general consensus that it's better to set the CPU input voltage and Uncore voltage manually rather than letting them be handled by the mobo on auto setting?
Edited by combatant3219 - 8/19/13 at 5:07pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BangBangPlay View Post

Hey Wizzie I tweaked my settings;

BangBangPlay

CPU: i5-4670K
Core Multi: 47
Core VID: 1.276V
Core Voltage: 1.296V
Uncore Multi:43
Uncore Voltage: 1.193V
Cooler: H100i
Stability: IBT
Batch: 313
Ram Speed: 1600 MHz XMP
Picture Verified: Yes

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Why not just ask everyone for their VID and the Core Voltage? That way we can get a better idea of the variation that may exist and see if it varies board to board, chip to chip.

Good idea, what should I do with voltages I already have listed on my chart?

Your results have been charted.

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Originally Posted by Ali Man View Post


Just folding takes a toll on my CPU's temps. While playing Grid 2 or Crysis 3, my 4770K @ 4.3Ghz (1.168V) still doesn't break 58C at the hottest core.

Chess doesn't use AVX instructions IIRC. I'm not 100% sure but I did some Google searches, no results on AVX Chess.

So I moved my multiplier to x45 overnight because I can't have a crash overnight because that's when all the chess work is being done. You crash, the work stops until I wake up the next day.

I'm at x45, x41. 1.39v, 1.27v.
HWInfo/monitor reports a jump to 1.424 under load. I'm on adaptive right now.

No crashes and chess has been running for over 12 hours I believe.

 

So whatever is causing the 7c error, changing the multiplier from x45 to x46 causes it.

 

I've hit a peak temperature of 80C at chess doing a chess tournament. On average though, the hottest of the cores hits 74.2C.

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Have you run Memtest on the RAM? Maybe the Vcore is too high now? Seems like strange behavior, and you're getting a pretty unusual crash code - don't see many reports of 9C. Wish I could remember when I got the only one I ever got.

For what it's worth, 9C is a machine check exception, and it sounds like it is similar to a 124.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff559323(v=vs.85).aspx

The MCA stuff isn't very helpful though:

Memtest requires boot from a flash drive? I'll try to see if I have one, I only have hard drives and almost all if not all have an OS on them.

 

Kk, from now on VID and Vcore are seperate categories.

Guide has been updated to reflect new entry column AND also updated to feature a few subcategories to help organize the guide.


Edited by Darkwizzie - 8/19/13 at 5:46pm
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I've been wanting to know if I can lower my VRIN a bit but I am really to lazy to do any stability testing for now
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Vcore 1.350
VRING 1.105
VRIN 1.970
VDIMM 1.505
VCCSA +0.05
VCCIOD +0.05
VCCIOA +0.05

Uncore X35(auto, will inc to 40)
CPU X45
XMP Enabled (1866)
PCH AUTO(1.090 default)
VRIN LLC EXTREME
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So I dropped the uncore multi back to default 35x from the 39x my mobo automatically upped it to.

Vcore still on 1.22 for 4.5Ghz. Prime made it through 9 hours this time as opposed to the 4 hours it made it through before the changes. I'd like to get to 12 hours minimum though before I call it stable.

I've got it running again now but I've set CPU Input voltage to 1.8V as opposed to auto and uncore voltage to 1.15 which was recommended in the Gigabyte OC guide and I'll see if that gets me further. Fingers crossed!

Is the general consensus that it's better to set the CPU input voltage and Uncore voltage manually rather than letting them be handled by the mobo on auto setting?

There is a chance that if you tell us the Bsod code (if there is any), that could help diagnose the issue. Uncore voltage totally, especially if you plan to overclock uncore after you're done with core. I've seen a motherboard give a dangerous voltage to the uncore left on auto. It's hard to get statistics on which boards have better auto settings, but manual will always be better than auto, the question is whether the time spent is worth it.

If you want to overclock uncore, I say yes. If you're leaving uncore at stock indefinately for one reason or another, no, I don't feel it's worth it. For Input voltage, IMO depends on how much voltage you are pumping into the CPU. If you're going 1.35v or 1.4v or higher feel it may be worth it to tweak the input voltage.

 

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Great guide.
 
 
Thank you! cheers.gif

Edited by Darkwizzie - 8/19/13 at 5:54pm
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Memtest requires boot from a flash drive? I'll try to see if I have one, I only have hard drives and almost all if not all have an OS on them.

That HCI Memtest runs from Windows, but I'm not sure how good it is.

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
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I've been wanting to know if I can lower my VRIN a bit but I am really to lazy to do any stability testing for now

With 1.33V vcore I was able to lower my VRIN to 1.8V, so I'd say you probably have some room to lower yours as well.
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