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Been tweaking some more this evening. Interesting results:

4770k with a Hyper 212+ in push/pull

43x core
35x min / 39x max cache (better to lock this at 39x?)
1.225v vcore
1.10 vcache
1.95v vrin

Ran stable for 10 - 12 rounds of prime95 blend. Rebooted and swapped vrin back to 1.65v with an LLC setting of "Level 8". Lower temps and nearly identical stability.

Not entirely stable, still ended up hard rebooting after about 15 minutes, but definitely near the same performance with a dramatically lower vrin. Are these high vrin values simply making up for vrin droop under load? Setting an LLC value (as opposed to auto) seemed to make a difference.
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Just did the test you linked Forceman.

It suggested 20 minutes, zero errors after 20 minutes.

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Good idea, what should I do with voltages I already have listed on my chart?
Your results have been charted.

Kk, from now on VID and Vcore are seperate categories.



Guide has been updated to reflect new entry column AND also updated to feature a few subcategories to help organize the guide.

Cool man, hopefully that will avoid some confusion. As far as the old results I saw that for now you listed everything as VID, and just have everyone update their settings. I am sure we can all attest to tweaking and changing our settings regularly, I know I still do when I have time to stress it properly. Hopefully we can get a better idea of how the FIVR is effecting voltage inputs in BIOS. I am waiting for a multimeter to test voltages directly on my board to see whats what with my board.

Everyone please update your results and separate your VID (CPUz) and Vcore (HWMonitor or HWinfo64) values when you post. If your Vcore is listed as VID now just tell Wizzie and give your original BIOS VID and he will surely update it as he can. Thanks!!!
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BSOD was a code 124 which is vcore/uncore voltage right? Seeing as my prime stability was better with the lower uncore, I'm thinking that setting the uncore voltage manually a little higher as well as VRIN might sort this out.

Overall goal with the overclock is to get 4.5Ghz stable with uncore at about 42x. Then once I have that right I'll probably try and push towards a max of about 4.7Ghz if I can. So yes, I will be overclocking uncore.

With the new settings (4.5Ghz/vcore 1.22/uncore 35x/uncore voltage 1.15/VRIN 1.8V/RAM XMP 2400Mhz) in IBT I had max temps of 78C and after 4 hours of prime I had max of 81C. I'm not sure what the ambient was but it was fairly cold this morning and these temps seemed lower than I've seen previously.
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Well, I'm slightly stumped. I am completely new to OCing. Well, not completely. I did some back in the P4 days... I can't seem to change the multiplier with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. I've made sure OC Genie was off, but it won't let me touch the multiplier. I can mess with the base frequency and voltage all day... That only does so much though.
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Well, I'm slightly stumped. I am completely new to OCing. Well, not completely. I did some back in the P4 days... I can't seem to change the multiplier with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. I've made sure OC Genie was off, but it won't let me touch the multiplier. I can mess with the base frequency and voltage all day... That only does so much though.

Never really used that utility apart from monitoring for throttling.

Try making your changes directly through BIOS. Much easier to work with in my opinion.
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Yeah, just use the Bios.

 

Combatant, 124 might be vcore problem. You shouldn't be overclocking core clock at same time as uncore anyways. If you only do core and have uncore at stock and you crash you know it's not uncore. If you are doing uncore and crash you know it's uncore as by the time you move onto uncore you already know your core is stable.

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Yeah, just use the Bios.

Combatant, 124 might be vcore problem. You shouldn't be overclocking core clock at same time as uncore anyways. If you only do core and have uncore at stock and you crash you know it's not uncore. If you are doing uncore and crash you know it's uncore as by the time you move onto uncore you already know your core is stable.

Thanks for that. That's exactly what I'm doing. Uncore is currently at default 35x. Just getting core clock stable then moving onto uncore. Changing to these (uncore voltage 1.15/VRIN 1.8V) as was recommended in Gigabytes guide seems to have helped with my Prime stability as it's now been running 13 Hours and counting (I'm currently at work).

Once I get home I'll try bumping up to either 4.6Ghz or 4.7Ghz and see how I go.

I think what's key is that it's not just vcore that is going to add to stability. Changing some of these other voltage settings may help get greater stability whilst keeping vcore as low as possible.

A few other forums I'm on people seem to be focussing on vcore too much (as was I, which was habit carried over from Sandybridge) when it seems these other settings can be the make or break of the overclock.
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Thanks for that. That's exactly what I'm doing. Uncore is currently at default 35x. Just getting core clock stable then moving onto uncore. Changing to these (uncore voltage 1.15/VRIN 1.8V) as was recommended in Gigabytes guide seems to have helped with my Prime stability as it's now been running 13 Hours and counting (I'm currently at work).

Once I get home I'll try bumping up to either 4.6Ghz or 4.7Ghz and see how I go.

I think what's key is that it's not just vcore that is going to add to stability. Changing some of these other voltage settings may help get greater stability whilst keeping vcore as low as possible.

A few other forums I'm on people seem to be focussing on vcore too much (as was I, which was habit carried over from Sandybridge) when it seems these other settings can be the make or break of the overclock.

Well I think you already know, on an uncore overclock having too little uncore voltage will crash the computer. The only other voltage variable I can think of is the total CPU voltage.

There are many settings though, getting 100% accurate info on all the small changes each voltage does for each circumstance is so difficult. If I could I add it all to my guide.

 

Hell, I'm getting 9c Bsod on my overclock under chess stress and I wrote the damned guide!

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Best of luck getting that 9c issue sorted out.

Prime crapped out on me again after 15 hours with bsod 124 again but I'm getting there. I might just call that close enough and work on getting uncore at 42x stable, or do you think I'd be better off getting it prime 24hr stable first before working on uncore?
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