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Originally Posted by error-id10t View Post

If it's anything like what I'm seeing, then you'll probably just get a freeze with cache volts too low. But once you raise them enough you may then be lacking in vcore so you may end up with a 124 (though I doubt this as you're keeping at auto values). I'd be surprised if you see a 101.

Yeah i have seen some freezing a while back when i kept uncore at stock which raised to 40x with 1.050v uncore which is the default voltage.
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I have another question about the memory. Right now i have Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL9 @ 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5v. Lets say if i want to try 1800/1866 atleast and then i change to 1.65v probably but do i have to raise the system agent / digital or analog voltages aswell or is it not necessary at clocks lower than 2000mhz ?
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Okay, I figured out a way to avoid the issues with running the 64-bit version of the benchmark by re-doing the script and creating an executable to do the temp install/de-install of the 64-bit version of Avisynth. I also updated the x264 encoder to the newest version, and changed some of the nomenclature in the batch file (including the name). So this version should work for all users without having to mess with running as administrator. Just run the x264_Stability_Test batch file.

http://www.2shared.com/file/yNZzmwrI/x264_Stability_Test.html

I also created a version that just has the new script stuff in it (and not the whole program) - you can just drop this into the original folder and run the x264_Stability_Test batch file. It will be using the old version of x264, but otherwise is the same.

http://www.2shared.com/file/kWYN_1eF/x264_Stability_Test_Addon.html

Thanks for this! Downloading

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Originally Posted by entrophy View Post

Another OC (found out I was able to run 4.5 ghz at a much lower vcore - just had to raise my CPU input voltage from 1.8 to 1.9:

Username: Entrophy
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier: 4.5 ghz
CPU VID: 1.213
Vcore: 1.212
Uncore Multiplier: 4,3 ghz
Uncore Voltage: 1.180
Cooling Solution: Noctua NH-D14
Stability Test: Intel Extreme Utility
Batch Number: dunno
Ram Speed: 2.133 mhz with 11-12-11-30 timings
Ram Voltage: 1.6
Input Voltage: 1.900
LLC Setting: High
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H

Edit: crashed and had to raise CPU VID from 1.203 to 1.213. Weird thing is that even though I've raised it the Vcore stays at 1.212 at load as was the case before I changed the VID.

I've been testing stability by playing CS: GO and listening to music on YouTube. As far as I know not all programs are able to use AVX. Could it be the case that my PC needed more VID for programs without the ability to run AVX to run properly since the max vcore stays the same (and I don't crash anymore)?

You should at least use ~x264, which uses avx2 and is in general a decent stability test. See link above

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Originally Posted by Rob78 View Post

I have another question about the memory. Right now i have Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL9 @ 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5v. Lets say if i want to try 1800/1866 atleast and then i change to 1.65v probably but do i have to raise the system agent / digital or analog voltages aswell or is it not necessary at clocks lower than 2000mhz ?

Auto values should hold you fine - they increase automatically and there's little reason for advanced tweaking - it's more neccesary for pushing the IMC, which often means ~2666-3000mhz, 1866 is pretty much a joke for haswell
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I haven't had much time to mess with my desktop since I built it in August. I do remember that I didn't get much over 4ghz on my current cooling solution. What are the best recommendations for a cooling solution that will fit in my Silverstone TJ-08E? I was thinking about a Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro. I'd like a bequiet Dark Rock Pro 2 if I could find one and it fit. I'd like to hit 4.5ghz.

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Anything Noctua D14 or higher.

 

 

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Originally Posted by zeroofmhx View Post


ive downloaded the file twice already this gives me the error

 

You're trying to extract a 7z file via Winrar. A highly compressed 7z file by winrar. :thumbsdow 7z is better than Winrar in every way and is free.

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Originally Posted by mav451 View Post

I got the actual x264 HD bench from the source website, so I only got the loop bat file from this thread. Maybe just go to the source website then?

As for running the bench itself without errors, you basically need to run it from an Admin-elevated command prompt; yes that means finding it manually through command line too haha. If you want to make it simpler, just rename the loop bat file "loop.bat" and rename the entire x264 HD Bench folder "x264" or whatever you want.

There's a couple other things you need to do - the instructions are contained in the test folder.

All in all, the process is seriously ham-handed lol, but once you have it setup it's not bad.

Yeah well, take it upon myself to get this to work better...

 

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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post


I don't know why so many people are having trouble with file access thing on their own systems, i never had any issue and i happened to already have avisynth installed because it's required for use of the encoder anyway (which is quite widespread, even away from video editors)

Well many others don't have problems, it's just we forget they exist because no error = no need to mention it.

 

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post


PLEASE! I need 1.35V for 4.3Ghz.

 

GG

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Originally Posted by chumanga View Post


That come by default about 1.550v or something and i just put manually at 1.60v. Have some problem?

What OP mean by override voltage, in my bios for vcore have only manual, adaptive, offset and auto, is override voltage the offset one?

 

Override is same exact thing as manual. Synonyms. I'll add that in the guide.

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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post




Did some lidded testing overnight. Only ran x264 so now I'll be running other stress tests, playing some games on the machine, and doing some custom fft prime runs just to see if any bring a quick bsod
My chip isn't the best, but it hits 4.5ghz without needing 1.45v so I can not complain
If I delidd I will have great temperatures throughout. If I don't I will still have nice temperatures outside of stress testing
I am going to drop to 4.4ghz as I won't lose much performance but I can cut a whopping 0.050v from my vcore.
So the haswell has the constant voltage and always has a rise? Still trying to understand how this chip functions

vcore v1.375
vrin v1.930
uncore 34x
uncore v1.15
llc level 8
Would like for some input on you other haswell owners on what my next step should be. Should I now try and get uncore up without exceeding v1.3, see what my max multiplier with stock voltage is and maybe give it a bump to v1.2 and see how close to 45x I can get it?

If you don't want to go for the next multiplier, sure. Try 1.2v or 1.25v if you want, see where that gets you.

 
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

So far, its looking like I'm stable at 4.8ghz....I just passed 10 runs of LinX, 30 mins of XTU, and 24 iterations of 32M HyperPi....aaevil.gif

Core: 48x
VID: 1.480v
VRIN: 2.08v
Uncore: 38x
VRing: 1.205

 

Okie make it stable for sure then we chart once again!

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Originally Posted by SandyBridge View Post

I notice that, my voltage is set at 1.190V and the core speed of the CPU keeps changings because I left EIST enabled. Will that harm the processor in anyway? I mean, you said before if the processor is doing small tasks, it needs lower voltage, so how about the changing of the speed while the voltage doesn't change? Like my case here:
CPU: 0.944Ghz / 4.100Ghz/ 1.785Ghz.....etc
Vcore: 1.190V all the time at any speed

No.

The only way to harm your CPU is either to have a ridiculously high vcore or have a ridiculously high temperature. Yours is sort of the opposite case. 

 

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Originally Posted by Rob78 View Post

How much uncore voltage would be enough for 40x ? i have it right now at 33x 1.15v when i have dialed in the cores . If i keep it at 34x it jumps auto to 40x which will probably be a sweet spot i think and what would be best to stress it ,, x264 again and perhaps aida64 cache ?

Depends on CPU but vast majority of the cases, 1.2v is enough.

 

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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post


Well, Prime has been mentioned, I thought "outdated" stressing programs were still useful.... wink.gif

Yeah, but Linpack 28k FTW!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Okay, I figured out a way to avoid the issues with running the 64-bit version of the benchmark by re-doing the script and creating an executable to do the temp install/de-install of the 64-bit version of Avisynth. I also updated the x264 encoder to the newest version, and changed some of the nomenclature in the batch file (including the name). So this version should work for all users without having to mess with running as administrator. Just run the x264_Stability_Test batch file.

http://www.2shared.com/file/yNZzmwrI/x264_Stability_Test.html

I also created a version that just has the new script stuff in it (and not the whole program) - you can just drop this into the original folder and run the x264_Stability_Test batch file. It will be using the old version of x264, but otherwise is the same.

http://www.2shared.com/file/kWYN_1eF/x264_Stability_Test_Addon.html

I will update the links accordingly.

 

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Originally Posted by entrophy View Post

Another OC (found out I was able to run 4.5 ghz at a much lower vcore - just had to raise my CPU input voltage from 1.8 to 1.9:

Username: Entrophy
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier: 4.5 ghz
CPU VID: 1.213
Vcore: 1.212
Uncore Multiplier: 4,3 ghz
Uncore Voltage: 1.180
Cooling Solution: Noctua NH-D14
Stability Test: Intel Extreme Utility
Batch Number: dunno
Ram Speed: 2.133 mhz with 11-12-11-30 timings
Ram Voltage: 1.6
Input Voltage: 1.900
LLC Setting: High
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H

Edit: crashed and had to raise CPU VID from 1.203 to 1.213. Weird thing is that even though I've raised it the Vcore stays at 1.212 at load as was the case before I changed the VID.

I've been testing stability by playing CS: GO and listening to music on YouTube. As far as I know not all programs are able to use AVX. Could it be the case that my PC needed more VID for programs without the ability to run AVX to run properly since the max vcore stays the same (and I don't crash anymore)?

Okie. Did you 4.6ghz OC change?


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I still don't think anyone's beaten my old 4.4/3.5 @ 1.375/1.25 chip yet tongue.gif

We should really start a 7z Master Race club too. Legit the first app I download during a fresh OS install (need it for driver unzips anyways)
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Just noticed, for the first time, the average OC in my chart has gone past multiplier 45.5x , we're at 45.6  on average now.

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I thought I would settle at 4.6 ghz but as the temperature increased outside so did my CPU temp: 1 core hit 81 C. Since 80 C is my limit I decided to downclock.
Because of that I found out that I was able to run 4.5 ghz at a much lower Vcore than I thought possible (I thought I needed like 1.250 - but this isn't the case when I raise input voltage from 1.8 > 1.9). I might as well stay at 4.5 ghz - temps don't go over 71 C now so this is probably gonna work even in the summer! I don't think 100 mhz more is worth the extra 10 C.

Do you only add 1 OC each member by the way?
Edited by entrophy - 1/29/14 at 3:01am
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I got a really good deal on a 2nd 4670k, and it looks to be about 2-3 multipliers better at a given voltage, so my first chip is going back. Here are my most recent fully stable settings for that first chip:

Username: fritzdis
CPU Model: 4670k
Core Multiplier: 42x
CPU VID: 1.16
Vcore: 1.184
Uncore Multiplier: 33x
Uncore Voltage: 1.15
Cooling Solution: Noctua NH-U14S
Stability Test: x264 (25 loops), Prime95 27.9 Large FFT (8.75 hours)
Batch Number: Malay L323C681
Ram Speed: 1333 MHz
Ram Voltage: Auto
Input Voltage: 1.8
LLC Setting: 8
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A

No screenshot since I already pulled the chip. I'm not sure if this should be charted, as I hadn't yet tried raising my memory speeds or uncore (although that chip seemed very sensitive to those increases).
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Have you made sure that all C-states are set to Enabled in the BIOS? The Auto setting doesn't seem to be sufficient to allow Vcore to drop in manual mode. At least, my Z87-A works that way.

Oh, for me it dont work vdrop at manual mode, i try with this c-states enable and then auto and same thing, my vid stay at full 1.15v when 800mhz.

People saying to trust the vcore instead of VID in hwinfo64 but for my viewing vcore ever show to me when idle 0.000v in any voltage mode(manual,adaptive,auto), and VID show ~0,670v when idle in adaptive mode. If im not wrong the guy of Asus in video say that manual mode in Asus board gonna be full time max vcore same when idle 800mhz.
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I got a really good deal on a 2nd 4670k, and it looks to be about 2-3 multipliers better at a given voltage, so my first chip is going back. Here are my most recent fully stable settings for that first chip:

Username: fritzdis
CPU Model: 4670k
Core Multiplier: 42x
CPU VID: 1.16
Vcore: 1.184
Uncore Multiplier: 33x
Uncore Voltage: 1.15
Cooling Solution: Noctua NH-U14S
Stability Test: x264 (25 loops), Prime95 27.9 Large FFT (8.75 hours)
Batch Number: Malay L323C681
Ram Speed: 1333 MHz
Ram Voltage: Auto
Input Voltage: 1.8
LLC Setting: 8
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A

No screenshot since I already pulled the chip. I'm not sure if this should be charted, as I hadn't yet tried raising my memory speeds or uncore (although that chip seemed very sensitive to those increases).

Charted.

 

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Originally Posted by entrophy View Post

I thought I would settle at 4.6 ghz but as the temperature increased outside so did my CPU temp: 1 core hit 81 C. Since 80 C is my limit I decided to downclock.
Because of that I found out that I was able to run 4.5 ghz at a much lower Vcore than I thought possible (I thought I needed like 1.250 - but this isn't the case when I raise input voltage from 1.8 > 1.9). I might as well stay at 4.5 ghz - temps don't go over 71 C now so this is probably gonna work even in the summer! I don't think 100 mhz more is worth the extra 10 C.

Do you only add 1 OC each member by the way?

I try to.

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Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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