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Hands are too mangled from frostbite to delid

Yes, that's my new (piss poor) excuse

...Too mangled to hold a hammer!? COME ON MAN! JOIN UUUUUUUUUS! devil.gif
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...Too mangled to hold a hammer!? COME ON MAN! JOIN UUUUUUUUUS! devil.gif
But not too mangled to type!

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Originally Posted by lombardsoup View Post

Hands are too mangled from frostbite to delid

Yes, that's my new (piss poor) excuse

Warm it up, get it toasty and let's being surgery. See you at the operating table at 0100 hours. :coolsmile

 

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YUP! I've seen so many reviews on forums where people just can't fathom why they even did such a thing. It makes no sense from a performance stand point. The only thing I can think of is cost.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/42711-thermaltake-water-20-extreme-vs-30-extreme/

There's a discussion. I can say that the 2.0 does NOT have a very high FPI. I've not seen the 3.0 so I can't say either way. But it is the same as the h100 minus corsair link. If they've changed anything, I hope it's the fans. The stock fans on the 2.0 are CRAP! They whine at low RPM. I changed them out completely.

I wonder how much cooler a custom loop is on average compared to these coolers...

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Warm it up, get it toasty and let's being surgery. See you at the operating table at 0100 hours. coolsmiley.png

I wonder how much cooler a custom loop is on average compared to these coolers...

Well comparing apples to apples (rad size and all). I suppose the advantages would be better pumps, thicker tubing, and possibly even better QC on the rads. Less change of flux being stuck in the rad itself as it's shipping empty and can be flushed by the user.

I would venture a guess of +- 8 degrees between the two. But again it'll depend on what we're comparing.
I can't see there being a big difference if we're talking something like the Antec 920 (great cooler) vs a custom double thick 120mm rad. Again the pump, and tubing play a major role but the circulation of the liquid itself is still fairly limited. It can't possibly cool fast enough in the 120mm to make that much of a difference. Just a guess though lol

I was originally thinking of going with one of the raystorm kits. I just didn't feel like going through the effort.
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post #9404 of 19652
The auto settings for my gigabyte board sets the core and uncore speed to 3800 and they both drop to 800 at idle. When I overclock the core and manually set uncore to the same 3800 it was before it doesn't down clock at idle anymore but the core clock still drops to 800 when overclocked.

Is this normal?
Edited by Derp - 1/29/14 at 5:28pm
post #9405 of 19652
Set 35x on 4770k - or 34x on 4670k - for 800mhz idle, 4000mhz load. I can stabilize this with 1.2v but not 1.15v, if memory serves correctly.
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I wonder how much cooler a custom loop is on average compared to these coolers...

It depends HEAVILY on water temperature. If water temp is 5c hotter, is are the CPU* - when the margins are relatively small, 5c can be a large portion of the temperature difference - so rad area/type, fan speeds etc can really matter

*CPU doesn't care if it is at 60c or 70c. At given settings, average will always be for example, 40c above the water temp

Many people make loops without too many rads, throw a gpu in, run low fan speeds etc, let the water delta rise.. I don't think that shows the true power of a custom loop, only the potential to be quiet and functional.
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This is gonna be it for my cpu. I might tweak the ram timings after a few days of use when I know that its stable beyound theses stress tests. it passed everything so hopefully no weird freezes or anything doing something simple.

I spent most of the day trying to get that uncore higher than this but at this point compared to my first chip i am very happy with it. I ran P95 this time around. temps were up to 86 on two cores but when I playing bf4 its never tops 60c


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Set 35x on 4770k - or 34x on 4670k - for 800mhz idle, 4000mhz load. I can stabilize this with 1.2v but not 1.15v, if memory serves correctly.

It doesn't matter what uncore I set, it stays stuck at that speed and will not idle at 800 if it's manually set. On auto it clocks down from 3800 to 800 just fine. Is there a setting that I can change to get the uncore to downclock when I have it manually set?
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Ok, so your 4670k (@3.4ghz uncore) or 4770k (@3.5ghz uncore) does not downclock? Other settings those work, but i don't think i've seen a documented case of that value not running at 40x/8x. You checked it in hwinfo and the memory tab of cpu-z 1.64.0?
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Ok, so your 4670k (@3.4ghz uncore) or 4770k (@3.5ghz uncore) does not downclock? Other settings those work, but i don't think i've seen a documented case of that value not running at 40x/8x. You checked it in hwinfo and the memory tab of cpu-z 1.64.0?

Yeah, it's a 4670k on a z87x-ud3h with the latest beta bios. I'm reading this value from hwinfo. And yeah, it's as I said, any manual uncore setting refuses to drop to 800 at idle with the core. 34x/38x it doesn't matter, only auto will drop down at idle.
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