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Since C-states and C1E have to be disabled (otherwise I can't boot into Windows) instead I have tried adaptive voltage. Seems to re running stable. Temperatures in idle are noticably lower - 22c lowest, well below 30c. But power usage dropped maybe by 5W compared to 1.26V override.

I've tried synthetic with adaptive - during prime95 VID has increased to like 1.33V. biggrin.gif It didn't exceed 1.26V in 3DMarks or games (C3, BF4)

Anyone has plugged a power meter? I am getting 75W idle (with 780). I suppose it wouldn't go much lower with C-states enabled and it's not really worth reworking all OC/flashing mobo etc?
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Yea, thats with all C-states and C1E disabled. Best I could to was boot into windows with C3 enabled, but my power usage or voltage didn't drop at all then

Ijust dont think u know what u are doing or u have a setting in the bios screwed up. Also how do u have windows power management setup?
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My bios settings

Enabling CPU States Support reveals more options (C1E, C3, C6, C7 and one more thing for enable/disable/auto), but I can boot to Windows only if I set them on auto - which is equal to disabled from my experience - or just enable C3, which didn't have any impact on voltages and power usage.

Also, CPU Input Voltage is more healthy for the CPU and mobo when set to Offset mode and offset voltage to -0.1V or simply 1.8V?

Power plan in Windows is set to balanced.
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Originally Posted by crun View Post

Yes. From about 0.75V in idle to 1.26V load, depending on clocks and usage

Ok, got it. Adaptive not useless with Asrock mobos as well. So with Cstates disabled, EIST disabled, adaptive on, shows low idle voltage that scales up higher when under load for Asrock.

 

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10 pass not good enough for me biggrin.gif

I mean it's good indication, a lot of things can go wrong before then, but if you want to actually use the x264 encoder heavily, it can be a bit dodgy lol

10 pass = bit over an hour and a half

If you want to encode a long high res movie for example.. You can have CPU pinned down for 5-10x that long, and if it errors once then you have to start over again biggrin.gif

That's why i never stuck with my 4.6+ht or 4.7 without HT.. I could pass some, but they never got to solid level. It was annoying.

Is there any tips that can help me with that? I'm using 1.24vid on 4.5 with HT. It seems really solid - however 1.31vid on 4.6 is still dropping encodes, like MTBF under an hour - which is unacceptable to me. The VID jump also seems unreasonably big there. I'm not sure what to try other than lots of long tests with/without RAM etc

You know the context of the post though, right?

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Ok, got it. Adaptive not useless with Asrock mobos as well. So with Cstates disabled, EIST disabled, adaptive on, shows low idle voltage that scales up higher when under load for Asrock.

You know the context of the post though, right?

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Fleetfeather and Darkwizzie, you guys helped me a lot with your suggestions. I did have to set mine to adaptive to get the VCore to drop at idle below what I have it set at. I'm still trying different things right now but so far I'm good at 1.35 VCore @ 4.3 with VCore dropping to mid .9's at idle........... just like my Asrock/2600K. I've heard from some people that it's better to keep a constant voltage on electronics as opposed to letting it fluctuate, but I've also heard from some that allowing it to drop when not needed will increase its longevity. What is everybody's take on this?
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Having 0.9v 80% of even 50% of the time is way better for the silicon than having 1.35v constant

It probably won't really come into play very much at that voltage level, but if you compare like 1.45v constant vs 1.45v with idle drops.. degradation would hit harder/earlier on the 24/7 1.45v chip
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Going 26 passes so far on x264 64 bit and 12 hours on aida, max temps 68*C.

1.276v @ 4.6

I finally figured out my idle voltage issue, there's two manual settings for my maximus VI gene.

FULL CONTROL enabled -> MANUAL - voltage stays constant (purely for benchmark?) and c states are mostly grayed out.
FULL CONTROL disabled -> MANUAL -voltage drops on idle and c states are all available.
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I have spent the past few weeks TRYING to get my new rig to OC to anything over 4.3
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from different sources and when I asked about not doing sync all cores and just
doing them separately, I was told not to do so. I then was lucky enough to find
some OC guides here and on the ROG site and I finally tried doing my cores
as separate and for the very fist time in 5 weeks of trying, I have 4.5 !!!!



Doing the stress test was passing, but the temps were very high, so I shut down the test.
I kept my settings and played BF4 and it was fine, during the game, I was keeping
my temps program running in the background and my temps during the game were great.



56 and 59 during game.

I felt so overjoyed to finally get past 4.3 !!!!

Ive been told that if I were to sell my cpu to someone who does not care
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Im going to just keep learning and trying to accomplish more.

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Having 0.9v 80% of even 50% of the time is way better for the silicon than having 1.35v constant

It probably won't really come into play very much at that voltage level, but if you compare like 1.45v constant vs 1.45v with idle drops.. degradation would hit harder/earlier on the 24/7 1.45v chip

Thanks for the input. Based on this it's almost better to be a little overkill on voltage to ensure complete stability knowing that voltage drops .3-.4 when at idle or light internet use.
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