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Has anyone played with the power or current limits on their boards to see if they have any impact on anything? With Sandy you'd get throttling if you exceeded the board power limits, but with Haswell maybe the FIVR gets current starved and shuts down, instead of a graceful throttle. I suspect that at least some of the no-BSOD reboot crashes are FIVR related - the Intel spec says that if the FIVR can't maintain the required voltages (if VCCIN is too low, for example) then the FIVR will shut down, which I imagine could result in a reboot. So maybe there are current issues as well.

I guess by that reasoning increasing VCCIN should always help, but some people find thaty they are less stable with higher vccin ??
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I don't have BF3. And it's their multiplayer that's the real test right? Gotta buy the game for multiplayer. Crysis 3 isn't as much of a test but a worthy second place? Chess bsods easier for me than Crysis 3 though. In fact Chess it the most Bsoding thing I do on my computer.

oops link is here https://www.humblebundle.com/

So for paying $4.83 I can get BF3? And all those games?

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So for paying $4.83 I can get BF3? And all those games?

Yes
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I guess by that reasoning increasing VCCIN should always help, but some people find thaty they are less stable with higher vccin ??

Good point. I guess a lot would depend on how and how well the FIVR works. If it is designed to reduce a 1.7V input to various 1.0ish voltages, then being presented with 2.2V (as an example) might make it difficult to continue providing 1.0 volts. That and having to produce both 1.0V (for VCCSA or something) and 1.45V (for Vcore) from the same 2.2V input voltage could be problematic, depending on how robust the VR is.

But I'm not an electrical engineer so those problems may actually be trivial, and it's really a temp problem where the VRMs overheat, or something completely unrelated. I think the impetus for going with the FIVR was to allow more fine-grained control over voltages as a power saving measure, so it may not be as robust as motherboard-based solutions even though it is more responsive and accurate.

I wish I had more time to play with some of the possibilities though.
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So for paying $4.83 I can get BF3? And all those games?

Humble Bundle is super legit. It's so cheap because they do it for charity and raising money, etc. If you pay $1 or more, you get all the games listed on the left. If you pay the "beat the average", then you get all the games on the left & right. BF3 is part of the games on the right, so you gotta pay $4.83 (current average) to unlock that game. Most Humble Bundles come in Steam/Origin keys these days...so its always nice to register it to your account thumb.gif

BF3 has some nice multiplayer....I'm sure you'll like it....let us know how it goes with your Haswell testing....I personally wouldn't like to use BF3 as stability testing....just because I would rage so hard if the game crashed on me, while I was on a 15+ killing streak
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I don't have BF3. And it's their multiplayer that's the real test right? Gotta buy the game for multiplayer. Crysis 3 isn't as much of a test but a worthy second place? Chess bsods easier for me than Crysis 3 though. In fact Chess it the most Bsoding thing I do on my computer.

I find it ironic, the whole reason of the socket change was for FIVR, and that is supposed to provide really good power rationing.
I'll gladly give you the BF3 code that I got from humble bundle. I already had BF3 and now I have a new code to give way. Lemme know if you want it. smile.gif
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Humble Bundle is super legit. It's so cheap because they do it for charity and raising money, etc. If you pay $1 or more, you get all the games listed on the left. If you pay the "beat the average", then you get all the games on the left & right. BF3 is part of the games on the right, so you gotta pay $4.83 (current average) to unlock that game. Most Humble Bundles come in Steam/Origin keys these days...so its always nice to register it to your account thumb.gif

BF3 has some nice multiplayer....I'm sure you'll like it....let us know how it goes with your Haswell testing....I personally wouldn't like to use BF3 as stability testing....just because I would rage so hard if the game crashed on me, while I was on a 15+ killing streak

Yeah, props to EA for that. I thought it was like $5 per game or something but it's more like $5 for all games, lol. And for charity, too. Further incentive to go legit.

 

 

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I'll gladly give you the BF3 code that I got from humble bundle. I already had BF3 and now I have a new code to give way. Lemme know if you want it. smile.gif
I think I'll buy the bundle just to donate to charity... I think I'll take the key for a friend so we can play together. :)
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Mojobear - Thanks for the link to Humble Bundle. Picked that up straight away. What a great deal. + Rep

AS for my OC. Still struggling to get 4.6Ghz stable and don't really want to bump vcore up too much more (I'm testing at 1.28, but 4.5 only needs 1.22 possibly less after fine tuning). Mind you I haven't been doing things 100% as recommended since I've had my Ram at 2400Mhz from the beginning.

I'm thinking it could be the RAM speed limiting me from getting a higher clockspeed and possibly meaning I need to push more vcore/higher temps. I'm now running stability tests with Ram back down at 1600Mhz to confirm. Temps were immediately noticeably lower by about 6-8C, so we'll see what happens.
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Mojobear - Thanks for the link to Humble Bundle. Picked that up straight away. What a great deal. + Rep

AS for my OC. Still struggling to get 4.6Ghz stable and don't really want to bump vcore up too much more (I'm testing at 1.28, but 4.5 only needs 1.22 possibly less after fine tuning). Mind you I haven't been doing things 100% as recommended since I've had my Ram at 2400Mhz from the beginning.

I'm thinking it could be the RAM speed limiting me from getting a higher clockspeed and possibly meaning I need to push more vcore/higher temps. I'm now running stability tests with Ram back down at 1600Mhz to confirm. Temps were immediately noticeably lower by about 6-8C, so we'll see what happens.

You might need more Vcore. I needed 1.28v for 4.5, 1.385 to 1.415 for 4.6. I also tweaked the Vccin, but changing the SA/IO voltages kept me stable after testing.

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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

You might need more Vcore. I needed 1.28v for 4.5, 1.385 to 1.415 for 4.6. I also tweaked the Vccin, but changing the SA/IO voltages kept me stable after testing.

I think your right, I might need a little more vcore. Failed again with RAM at 1600Mhz.

I'll have more of a play around with it but I may just end up sticking with 4.5Ghz as more vcore is going to put my temps into a range I'm not sure I'm comftorbale with.
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