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Hi guys,

I'm running a i5 4670k here, it needs 1.43 volts in bios (1.44 hwinfo & cpu-z) for 4.7 Ghz. VCCIN is 2.112 (2.1 bios) with LLC 7
It's sitting on a maximus VI gene, custom-loop water-cooled.

I feel like the volts it needs for 4.7 are a tad high, but since this is my first pc that isn't a mac I'm very new-ish at over clocking. Is there a setting that I missed somewhere which will help me reduce volts?

Temps are in check, maxing out at 80 degrees (not even delidded and most likely a terrible mount :')

Thanks!
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Just a quick question on passes, for Intel Burn test, how long of a run counts as a pass ? I'm currently running it for 8 hours while I sleep so would that count as just 1 pass or is the standard 5 minute test a pass ?

Currently OC'ing my new 4770k tried 1.25v @ 4.5Ghz and Bsod 10 mins into IBT, upped the vcore to 1.26v and it's stable thus far and I haven't touched any of the other settings yet but I'm currently running at 65 degrees, no idea if it's good or bad in the grand scheme of intel chips as I'm not sure I can be bothered going higher if I need to run 8 hour tests each time I change a setting
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Hi guys,

I'm running a i5 4670k here, it needs 1.43 volts in bios (1.44 hwinfo & cpu-z) for 4.7 Ghz. VCCIN is 2.112 (2.1 bios) with LLC 7
It's sitting on a maximus VI gene, custom-loop water-cooled.

I feel like the volts it needs for 4.7 are a tad high, but since this is my first pc that isn't a mac I'm very new-ish at over clocking. Is there a setting that I missed somewhere which will help me reduce volts?

Temps are in check, maxing out at 80 degrees (not even delidded and most likely a terrible mount :')

Thanks!

You're already doing very well with that overclock. 4.7 is above average. You might be able to eak out a slightly lower Vcore with a higher VCCIN, I don't know. But your settings look OK so far. When you list temps you also need to list where you got the temps, from what? Prime? x264? Linpack? Those things vary a lot in temps. 80C in Linpack @ 1.44 would be godly but 80C doing x264 is average. 

When your OC is done please list all of your settings for my chart. You might want to do it right now anyways, that way we can see more of your settings.

 

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Just a quick question on passes, for Intel Burn test, how long of a run counts as a pass ? I'm currently running it for 8 hours while I sleep so would that count as just 1 pass or is the standard 5 minute test a pass ?

Currently OC'ing my new 4770k tried 1.25v @ 4.5Ghz and Bsod 10 mins into IBT, upped the vcore to 1.26v and it's stable thus far and I haven't touched any of the other settings yet but I'm currently running at 65 degrees, no idea if it's good or bad in the grand scheme of intel chips as I'm not sure I can be bothered going higher if I need to run 8 hour tests each time I change a setting

There's an option in there showing you how many passes I'm sure... a Pass won't take longer than a few minutes. I don't know how difficult of a stress test IBT is, either. Unless you need your overclock done like today or tomorrow, you can just tweak when you crash. If you run overnight, you don't lose any time if the computer crashes. The amount of time you spend tweaking is identical compared to having to stress for 5 minutes.

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OK, I can't get any voltage drop with not just C7 state enabled, but ALL C states enabled. My VCore is constant and also everything skips really bad with C7 enabled. Am I missing something here?

Edit: I only get the skipping with C7 and C6, not C3 or C2. Either way it's completely irrelevant if I can't get VCore to drop.
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I'm not familiar with MSI's bios, but C3 should also give a chance for Vcore to drop. Just tried it on my Asus board: Core C3 enabled, C6/7 Disabled. Package C state set to C3. According to RealTemp, while in a idle desktop state (no programs running besides normal background stuff), it was about 96% in core c3 state and 83% in package C2 state. (Curious it never made it to C3 at package ... I wonder if Haswell has package C3 or just C2 and then jumps to C6/7?). Vcore, whose running value is normally 1.344v, was "down volting" to a low of 0.736v. I should also mention when I do normally have C6/7 enabled, Vcore can "down volt" to a much lower value. Likely that is the case because more of the CPU is turned off when in C6/7. Package does go to C7 state in that case.
(Actually I noticed it also only goes to package C2 in that case. Investigating why....)

Also, a quick google shows someone else talking about a C7 chopping issue with a MSI board you might want to check out...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2367719
Edited by peakclimber - 2/11/14 at 5:59pm
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Never mind, brain fart.
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I isolated my problem with x264, it stops working after a few % on first pass when i use newest binary. it just stops and nothing happens.
If i put back original one, it does 20 passes.

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JJFIVEOH, sounds to me like you are entering the states fine but reading VID instead of Vcore? 100% sure you're using right sensors?
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There's an option in there showing you how many passes I'm sure... a Pass won't take longer than a few minutes. I don't know how difficult of a stress test IBT is, either. Unless you need your overclock done like today or tomorrow, you can just tweak when you crash. If you run overnight, you don't lose any time if the computer crashes. The amount of time you spend tweaking is identical compared to having to stress for 5 minutes.

Well I was thinking to just run tests while I sleep, then in the day when I need to use the comp, just reset everything to stock and keep doing that until I find a stable clock but ideally I'd like it sooner rather than later because I use my comp daily and I'm sure I'll end up being fed up of resetting everything to then set it all back up and the more I change the more I'll have to remember or write down.

I can't find any pass information for IBT only options to set CPU/RAM/GPU and the length of time to run the test, I just had it run fine for almost 2 hours, then tried the benchmarking option and BSOD within 5 seconds so it's not stable despite running stable during the test.

Can you also let me know how to setup x264 so I can use that for testing ?
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You're already doing very well with that overclock. 4.7 is above average. You might be able to eak out a slightly lower Vcore with a higher VCCIN, I don't know. But your settings look OK so far. When you list temps you also need to list where you got the temps, from what? Prime? x264? Linpack? Those things vary a lot in temps. 80C in Linpack @ 1.44 would be godly but 80C doing x264 is average. 


When your OC is done please list all of your settings for my chart. You might want to do it right now anyways, that way we can see more of your settings.

Thanks for the fast response!

Username: Jetskyer
CPU Model: i5 4760k
Core Multiplier: 100
CPU VID: 1.44
Vcore: 1.45
Uncore Multiplier: 38
Uncore Voltage: 1.2
Cooling Solution: custom liquid (MIPS IceForce HF)
Stability Test: Prime95
Batch Number: where can I find the batch-number?
Ram Speed: 1600 (haven't looked into that yet)
Ram Voltage: 1.5
Input Voltage: 2.10
LLC Setting: 7
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Gene

The 80 degrees was with prime95, both small and large fft's
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Batch # is right on your box haha. Or you could check directly on the IHS of your chip - whatever's easier for you.
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i5 4670K @ 4.7Ghz [1.284v] Z87X-UD4H [F7] MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X 2x4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3; 10-10-10-28 @ 2133Mhz [... 
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1x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB 1x Crucial M500 960GB 1x WD4003FZEX 1x WD30EFRX 
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NH-D14 3x A15s @ 600RPM 2x Phanteks F140SP BBK (front), SFF21E (bottom) Win 10 Pro x64 Catleap 2B @ 119hz +1 
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U3014 eVGA 750G2 Fractal R5 - Blackout Edition MS WMO 1.1a 
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