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I have 2x4Gb of geil black dragon memory, they run at 1866Mhz on XMP mode.

I bought another 2x4Gb black dragon memory, they are the same CL9-10-9-28, 1866Mhz 2x4Gb, but now in BIOS XMP mode is not available anymore, its not clickable.

I cheched in aida64, and seems the new ram is from another build, from 2012, and my old ram is from 2011. Then i putted 1866Mhz manual and the timings manual too, on 9-10-9-28 as it says on the box. They work but as soon as i reboot the PC, the PC stops and re-puts all the memory back to 1600Mhz.

Here is the aida64 pics, comparison.

So it's a problem with the build date of the memory, i need to sell the old ones and get the same build no ?





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Look at the difference in sub-timings, specifically the tRFC (second subtiming). I don't know which is newer, top or bottom, but I would try first to manually enter the timings of the better kit for all four DIMMs in your BIOS. If that doesn't work, then you can enter the timings from the looser of the two kits for both, as I have yet to see memory that won't run slower than rated, but lots won't run faster than rated.
I am not very familiar with Geil memory, but I would suggest looking to see if you can't find the IC's used for each of the two kits. Usually it can be determined via the serial number or a version number, but the only sure way is to remove the heatspreaders. If you decide to remove them to check, be extremely careful because I can't say whether they're well attached or not, or if they utilize thermal pads (easy to remove) or thermal adhesive (a PITA). The last thing I'd want is for you to yank off some IC's alongside the heatspreaders. Generally, using a heat gun or even a hairdryer to warm up whatever thermal interface will greatly loosen the bond and make it far easier to gently remove the HS.

If the only difference is the tRFC, then you should not have any issues matching one to the other. However, there are 4-5x as many actual timings than are shown by AIDA64, and even a small discrepancy in the tertiary timings can result in huge instability, if you can run them at all. Fortunately, there is a chance you can run the memory together, it will just take a bit of time (which is better, IMHO, than wasting money if you don't have to). Plus, spending some time in the Memory Timings section of your BIOS will be helpful should you ever want to overclock the memory, as you will have some familiarity.

I hope this helps!
   
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