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I'm reading more and more online about the problem in the subject. I'm testing my system for a week now and i'm still getting BSODs with 124 stop msg \ lockups when the machine is IDLE.
I can stress test it for hours and it will be Rock solid but, coming back from work after 8 hours of idle and opening chrome. crash.
I tried changing the cpu vcore to 1.20 from Auto but i'm still not stable on idle. Should I disable C3?

Please advise
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Make sure your ram is at stock and your primary disk is healthy. If your CPU is crashing at stock settings, it probably needs an RMA. What happens if you run Prime?
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Really almost impossible it is your processor..... More than likely your ram or mobo.

Never ever heard of a bad CPU out of the box. ever.
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Turn off C3 and C6. It's been known to cause idle BSOD when you are also using offset voltage + speedstep (EIST) + C1E aka downclock/downvolt OC. Been like this since sandy bridge.

Trust, I had the exact same problem on my 2500k. It's the C states. Turn off C7 too if it persists.
    
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Originally Posted by alcal View Post

Make sure your ram is at stock and your primary disk is healthy. If your CPU is crashing at stock settings, it probably needs an RMA. What happens if you run Prime?
Nothing. Prime will run for hours stable as a rock. That's the funny part. It can handle 8 hours of prime but opening chrome after 8 hours of idle will crash it.
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Really almost impossible it is your processor..... More than likely your ram or mobo.

Never ever heard of a bad CPU out of the box. ever.

Memtest for 10 hours - Done
SSD and HDD deep scans - Done.
That only leaves the mobo , don't know how to check that one.
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Turn off C3 and C6. It's been known to cause idle BSOD when you are also using offset voltage + speedstep (EIST) + C1E aka downclock/downvolt OC. Been like this since sandy bridge.

Trust, I had the exact same problem on my 2500k. It's the C states. Turn off C7 too if it persists.

Sounds promising. Right now I'm not using offset voltage or EIST (I'll double check) My system is pretty much on stock \ defult settings besides the extra Vcore I added to it. Would you mind clarifying the above and tell me exactly what needs to be on \ off in my bios? Thanks
Also, if I understand correctly, disabling C states will force my machine to run on full power even on IDLE?
Edited by Shasoosh - 7/20/13 at 3:03am
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post #6 of 17
Never had a Gigabyte board so I'm not sure where it would be located in your bios. Should be under CPU settings, CPU power saving, CPU C states or something like that. Just explore you'll find it.
I didn't realize you were running at stock, that is indeed weird. When you open CPU-Z do you see your clock speeds and voltage dropping down at idle?
    
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Nop, stays pretty much the same and fixed on 1.120.
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124 errors seem to be cache related. Does your board have a setting for Vring? If so, try bumping it to 1.1V or 1.15V and see if that helps. Not sure why you'd need to do anything at stock though. Oh, and try using CPU-Z version 1.64.0, the new versions like the one you are using, don't show the Vcore correctly.
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124 errors seem to be cache related. Does your board have a setting for Vring? If so, try bumping it to 1.1V or 1.15V and see if that helps. Not sure why you'd need to do anything at stock though. Oh, and try using CPU-Z version 1.64.0, the new versions like the one you are using, don't show the Vcore correctly.

124 can be either VCORE or VRING. there is no definitive way to tell which it is without further testing.
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Turn off C3 and C6. It's been known to cause idle BSOD when you are also using offset voltage + speedstep (EIST) + C1E aka downclock/downvolt OC. Been like this since sandy bridge.

Trust, I had the exact same problem on my 2500k. It's the C states. Turn off C7 too if it persists.

Haswell is not know to suffer from this problem. There is the possibility his chip is defective though, as you've all mentioned.

On a side note, I still don't see why people are using offset voltage with Haswell. It already has measures to lower its voltage without it. I've confirmed anywhere from 0.132 - 1.320 core without using offset on none personally, with a multimeter. Just a thought.
Edited by adamlee05 - 7/20/13 at 8:24pm
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Nop, stays pretty much the same and fixed on 1.120

You're using bad version of cpu-z (use 1.64.0) so you can't see voltage changes anyway
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