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Had a blast installing the EK block on the new K|NGP|N and finding solutions to a couple problems.

First off, I wanted to use the stock backplate as it just looks great and should stay on the card. The problem is that the EK block uses a larger diameter screw, which in itself isn't a problem, but the diameter of the screw head is the issue. They won't fit in the recesses that the stock screws go in.

I took a handful to the garage with a stock size screw to use as a guide and mucked one up trying to grind down the head before coming up with an easy solution. Use the nut that came with the EK block as a stabilizer on one end held by a micro set of vice-grips and then turn and stabilize the screw while on the grinding wheel with a small screwdriver. They turned out way better than I had expected. The stock backplate pads are thinner than the plastic washers that come with the EK block so the screws are long enough if you turn the heads down. As a bonus, they sit flush!









The card is just massive... One thing I wanted to address was cooling the VRM power circuitry that the EK block doesn't cover. I am sure open air is probably fine, but a little extra cooling can't hurt here.

Somebody might recognize the heatsink as a ramsink from John Hillig ("Viper John") from a long time ago. Great guy and I always enjoyed talking with him. I have a couple sets from some old 8800 GTXs. He made some pretty nice pieces and I still find uses for these things. The ramsink fits almost perfectly over the MOSFETs. It is a little close to the chokes on one side so I cut and applied a strip of the rubber insulator that EVGA includes with the card. I let the ruber extend down past the sink to the board surface to make sure it was insulated. The small resistors on the other side, I think, are flush with the other components, but I let the thermal tape (3M) hang past a bit just in case.







Does anyone see any problem with the heatsink as installed? I believe it is not in contact with anything and the insulator strip should prevent any issues if this shifts or gets hit for some reason, but I'm open to suggestions.

I think it turned out pretty nice and I've really enjoyed getting back into this hobby. The reference Ti is coming out tomorrow and we'll see what this card can do over the weekend.

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Edited by VETDRMS - 3/13/14 at 8:40pm
post #10402 of 21379
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Originally Posted by gatesmarch View Post

What bios are you using? What is your power target set to? I'd bump the voltage up to 1.25-1.275 at least. If you're on stock bios are you using k-boost to lock in your boost clock?

I'm using the stock BIOS I think, the one that came with the card. I'm not using k-boost lock and my power target is set to maximum.
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Might be a stupid question but is there anyway to force a higher usage during a game?

FOr instance, Leauge of Legends only uses 1000core, is there any way to knock this up? As since they released the new crap, it bogs my game below 120fps sometimes which isn't idle being at 120hz

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Might be a stupid question but is there anyway to force a higher usage during a game?

FOr instance, Leauge of Legends only uses 1000core, is there any way to knock this up? As since they released the new crap, it bogs my game below 120fps sometimes which isn't idle being at 120hz

Cheers!

I think flashing one of the skynet bios that disables boost could help you with that. I'm sure someone on here can help you as to which one to flash.
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Originally Posted by traxtech View Post

Might be a stupid question but is there anyway to force a higher usage during a game?

FOr instance, Leauge of Legends only uses 1000core, is there any way to knock this up? As since they released the new crap, it bogs my game below 120fps sometimes which isn't idle being at 120hz

Cheers!

If you're on stock bios, you can try applying k-boost in Precision. It's supposed to lock in the boost clock speed. That still doesn't explain why your gpu still isn't reaching it's max base core clock. Is it boosting at all above 1000mhz? It may be thermal throttling...what are your temps? The first thing I did when I got my card was throw skynet's bios on, it solves just about every issue with Nvidia keeping this card on a leash.
Edited by gatesmarch - 3/14/14 at 7:53am
post #10406 of 21379
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Originally Posted by VETDRMS View Post

Had a blast installing the EK block on the new K|NGP|N and finding solutions to a couple problems.

Does anyone see any problem with the heatsink as installed? I believe it is not in contact with anything and the insulator strip should prevent any issues if this shifts or gets hit for some reason, but I'm open to suggestions.

I think it turned out pretty nice and I've really enjoyed getting back into this hobby. The reference Ti is coming out tomorrow and we'll see what this card can do over the weekend.

thumb.gif

That heatsink looks just fine...it'll dissipate that heat quite nicely.thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by VETDRMS View Post

Had a blast installing the EK block on the new K|NGP|N and finding solutions to a couple problems.

First off, I wanted to use the stock backplate as it just looks great and should stay on the card. The problem is that the EK block uses a larger diameter screw, which in itself isn't a problem, but the diameter of the screw head is the issue. They won't fit in the recesses that the stock screws go in.

I took a handful to the garage with a stock size screw to use as a guide and mucked one up trying to grind down the head before coming up with an easy solution. Use the nut that came with the EK block as a stabilizer on one end held by a micro set of vice-grips and then turn and stabilize the screw while on the grinding wheel with a small screwdriver. They turned out way better than I had expected. The stock backplate pads are thinner than the plastic washers that come with the EK block so the screws are long enough if you turn the heads down. As a bonus, they sit flush!



The card is just massive... One thing I wanted to address was cooling the VRM power circuitry that the EK block doesn't cover. I am sure open air is probably fine, but a little extra cooling can't hurt here.

Somebody might recognize the heatsink as a ramsink from John Hillig ("Viper John") from a long time ago. Great guy and I always enjoyed talking with him. I have a couple sets from some old 8800 GTXs. He made some pretty nice pieces and I still find uses for these things. The ramsink fits almost perfectly over the MOSFETs. It is a little close to the chokes on one side so I cut and applied a strip of the rubber insulator that EVGA includes with the card. I let the ruber extend down past the sink to the board surface to make sure it was insulated. The small resistors on the other side, I think, are flush with the other components, but I let the thermal tape (3M) hang past a bit just in case.


Does anyone see any problem with the heatsink as installed? I believe it is not in contact with anything and the insulator strip should prevent any issues if this shifts or gets hit for some reason, but I'm open to suggestions.

I think it turned out pretty nice and I've really enjoyed getting back into this hobby. The reference Ti is coming out tomorrow and we'll see what this card can do over the weekend.

thumb.gif

nice job, it looks great. it really is a shame they didn't come out with a full pcb block for this card that cooled that area also and matched the backplate. Yours looks amazing, I was just thinking out loud.
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post #10408 of 21379
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Originally Posted by VETDRMS View Post

Had a blast installing the EK block on the new K|NGP|N and finding solutions to a couple problems.

First off, I wanted to use the stock backplate as it just looks great and should stay on the card. The problem is that the EK block uses a larger diameter screw, which in itself isn't a problem, but the diameter of the screw head is the issue. They won't fit in the recesses that the stock screws go in.

I took a handful to the garage with a stock size screw to use as a guide and mucked one up trying to grind down the head before coming up with an easy solution. Use the nut that came with the EK block as a stabilizer on one end held by a micro set of vice-grips and then turn and stabilize the screw while on the grinding wheel with a small screwdriver. They turned out way better than I had expected. The stock backplate pads are thinner than the plastic washers that come with the EK block so the screws are long enough if you turn the heads down. As a bonus, they sit flush!

(Pics snipped)

The card is just massive... One thing I wanted to address was cooling the VRM power circuitry that the EK block doesn't cover. I am sure open air is probably fine, but a little extra cooling can't hurt here.

Somebody might recognize the heatsink as a ramsink from John Hillig ("Viper John") from a long time ago. Great guy and I always enjoyed talking with him. I have a couple sets from some old 8800 GTXs. He made some pretty nice pieces and I still find uses for these things. The ramsink fits almost perfectly over the MOSFETs. It is a little close to the chokes on one side so I cut and applied a strip of the rubber insulator that EVGA includes with the card. I let the ruber extend down past the sink to the board surface to make sure it was insulated. The small resistors on the other side, I think, are flush with the other components, but I let the thermal tape (3M) hang past a bit just in case.

(Pics snipped)

Does anyone see any problem with the heatsink as installed? I believe it is not in contact with anything and the insulator strip should prevent any issues if this shifts or gets hit for some reason, but I'm open to suggestions.

I think it turned out pretty nice and I've really enjoyed getting back into this hobby. The reference Ti is coming out tomorrow and we'll see what this card can do over the weekend.

thumb.gif

Very nice job VETDRMS! I did pretty much the same thing as far as using the EVGA backplates with the EK blocks, but with my regular 780Ti Classies, as I didn't spring for KPE's.

While the EK backplates look nice, I don't like the fact that they cover the BIOS selection indicator LED and the logo they sport are just for the 780 classy. So, I went with the EVGA backplates as well.

I faced similar screw problems marrying up the EVGA backplates with the EK blocks, but luckily I had ordered a bunch of different screw sizes/types from Mr. Metric after I placed my order for the EK blocks. So, I had a nice selection of screws to pick from when it came time to mount everything. I ended up using M3x8 screws to actually secure the EVGA backplate to the EK block, but I also added M3x6 screws to all the holes that were left over - strictly for cosmetic reasons as I wanted to plug all the unused holes in the EVGA backplate. (i.e. the ones with no matching screw holes going through to the EK block.) To secure these cosmetic screws, I simply used a small BB sized ball of poster mounting putty in each hole - it grabs the screws nicely and keeps them from rattling around or falling out.

Here's a pic of the mounted backplate and the screws I ended up using - they are very low profile and cover most of the silver socket holes in the backplate. For those interested in going a similar route, here's a pic that includes just the screws I ended up using for the backplate install:


These screws have flat heads / hex sockets and lie pretty flush with the card when compared to the EK round cap screws. Here's a closer pic:


Hah! I remember Viper John as well - also bought his sinks for my 8800! (Damn, that was a while ago... good times!) I'm also thinking of mounting a couple of sinks in the same location you did on both of my cards as well. Like you said, certainly can't hurt - especially since I plan to ramp the voltage up a bit on my cards as well.

Here's how the cards came together:


And the completed install:
post #10409 of 21379
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Originally Posted by strong island 1 View Post

nice job, it looks great. it really is a shame they didn't come out with a full pcb block for this card that cooled that area also and matched the backplate. Yours looks amazing, I was just thinking out loud.

Thanks! I have an old volt modded GTX 280 HydroCopper here that is an absolute brick. I always thought the PCB would eventually break as it had almost an inch of droop from being installed all these years. That was a wicked looking card for the time, but they've really done a good job with this one. A full-cover block would look better no doubt. A bolt-on plate minus the area that the WB covers would even be a nice, cheap option. I didn't feel like cutting the stock one as it may end up back to stock some day.
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Originally Posted by Supercharged_Z06 View Post

Very nice job VETDRMS! I did pretty much the same thing as far as using the EVGA backplates with the EK blocks, but with my regular 780Ti Classies, as I didn't spring for KPE's.

Hah! I remember Viper John as well - also bought his sinks for my 8800! (Damn, that was a while ago... good times!) I'm also thinking of mounting a couple of sinks in the same location you did on both of my cards as well. Like you said, certainly can't hurt - especially since I plan to ramp the voltage up a bit on my cards as well.

Looks great Supercharged_Z06! I like the flat head screws too. Also, I might just turn down some extra EK screws then cut the heads off and puddy them in place, thanks for the idea. thumb.gif

I'll probably shoot John and e-mail to see what he's been up to. He used to drag race in the 70s with the big dogs and has some good stories. I still have the 8800 GTX and GT here that had his parts.

My brother had a Vortec v-trim supercharged '05 Z06...fun car! My name is my old license plates for this:



I've got a nasty E85 Talon and an Evo too, but it's been too cold to wrench. It has been fun hotrodding the old computer though! (enough off topic, sorry)

I should get the old card out tonight and start testing this. Once the temps drop again I'll toss the box outside to do some cold testing. biggrin.gif
Edited by VETDRMS - 3/14/14 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by OleMortenF View Post

What are the 3 different adjustments in the tool for? smile.gif

This:

NVVDD (GPU voltage)
FBVDD (RAM voltage)
PEXVDD1 (PCI Express voltage)
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