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post #20911 of 21381
Nope they are completely different pcb design and not similar.. the only way they are the same is some classy models have Samsung mem and the 980ti gpu.. quit saying they are even similar.
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Originally Posted by dilster97 View Post

While they are not identical the KPE is derived from the Classy. It's a Classy PCB with a little bit extra. It is, in a sense, the same card. Both cards can achieve the same clocks (although the KPE seems to top out higher). The "little bit extra" comes in the form of a UART connector, LN2 heater pads and the extra power connector.
post #20912 of 21381
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Originally Posted by dilster97 View Post

While they are not identical the KPE is derived from the Classy. It's a Classy PCB with a little bit extra. It is, in a sense, the same card. Both cards can achieve the same clocks (although the KPE seems to top out higher). The "little bit extra" comes in the form of a UART connector, LN2 heater pads and the extra power connector.

Just look at pics of both pcb's, they are very much different. The layout and components, its not just an extra 6 pin.
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Nope they are completely different pcb design and not similar.. the only way they are the same is some classy models have Samsung mem and the 980ti gpu.. quit saying they are even similar.

At least someone gets it thumb.gif
post #20913 of 21381
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Originally Posted by steponz View Post

Nope they are completely different pcb design and not similar.. the only way they are the same is some classy models have Samsung mem and the 980ti gpu.. quit saying they are even similar.
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Originally Posted by bigblock990 View Post

Just look at pics of both pcb's, they are very much different. The layout and components, its not just an extra 6 pin.
At least someone gets it thumb.gif

Well whatever makes you kids happy thumb.gif
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Well whatever makes you kids happy thumb.gif

980ti kingpin:


980ti classy:



proof is in the pudding..........erm pictures.
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Sure glad you guys came in to correct that.

I knew damn well when I bought my KPE that it wasn't "the same thing" as a Classified, and vice-versa, lol.

I wish Vince was here to see this, he would certainly get a chuckle out of it!biggrin.gif
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post #20916 of 21381
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Originally Posted by johnd0e View Post

980ti kingpin:


980ti classy:



proof is in the pudding..........erm pictures.

NOT EVEN CLOSE! thumb.gif

SS
post #20917 of 21381
Its not even close.... basically if you think the KP is the same as a Classified.. is basically the same as saying the classified is the same as Gigabyte G1 Gaming.. I see way too much bad information going around these forums on GPUs.. Especially the KP. Vince and I are the ones that have bench this GPU the most... Don't get me wrong the Classified is a good GPU.. but the KP is on a different level for Extreme stuff.

Only trying to point out the facts.. smile.gif
post #20918 of 21381
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Its not even close.... basically if you think the KP is the same as a Classified.. is basically the same as saying the classified is the same as Gigabyte G1 Gaming.. I see way too much bad information going around these forums on GPUs.. Especially the KP. Vince and I are the ones that have bench this GPU the most... Don't get me wrong the Classified is a good GPU.. but the KP is on a different level for Extreme stuff.

Only trying to point out the facts.. smile.gif

+1 I've contemplated selling the KPE's but each time I was like I still haven't fully utilized these. The R&D that went into these cards are unbelievable.

What card out there can you say that runs well with 0 additional VRM cooling using uniblock? My system literally has barely any direct airflow over the bare nickel plated "plates" and they won't go over 65C under long gaming sessions. If I have more airflow they never go over 50C
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The only people who really think the Kingpin and Classified cards are the same thing are the kind to buy a kingpin 980 TI for it's pretty RGB shroud only to find out it doesn't clock to 1,750mhz on air, then blame it on it being "a classified with an extra 6 pin" and getting even more salty after finding out Newegg doesn't refund GPUs, selling it for a loss to some lucky buyer lol.

You have to at least use high tier custom water to take true advantage of a kingpin card.

Used to be to get that kind of performance potential you needed e-power boards, soldered resistors, highly modded VBIOS, a Tek9 pot, nerves of steel, and a ton of money and time on your hands.



Now you can get 16+3 phase power, 450 watt max power draw, easy pot mounting due to the proper mounting hold spacing, much better voltage controls, fantastic passive VRM cooling, etc..etc.. and a HELL of a lot less risk of destroying the board from overvoltage, overamperage, overwattage, condensation etc...etc.. Personally i still swear by a good safe-for-high-pressure custom made uniblock + cascade with nothing but the passive VRM plate, an EVBot and some paper towels lol.

Bottom line, Running 1.38v @ -100C through a 1000w TDP BIOS on a classy will in all likelihood result in a wasted board when the funs all over, not necessarily on a KPE...in fact not likely at all unless YOU f'ed up! THAT is the true worth of a KPE card, durability under ridiculously extreme conditions; having more power phases and power draw is a nice little extra to mess around with of course, but these people don't seem to get that its NECESSARY if you wanna be able to punch the limit in the face and shove it back over and over again.
 
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post #20920 of 21381
Exactly!

I love the people who buy a kpe thinking theyre garunteed to be hitting over 1600 on air. All it takes is one google search to find the kingpin cooling forums, were you can find every spec of info about the kpe and how its main duty in life is to rip the faces off its competitors with the help of ln2.


The classy is more of a "consumer extreme" card imho. its not going break the bank to buy for long term air/water card, and gives you the bare bones features for benching cold ie: dmm support, full voltage control(evbot), 14+3 phase power. The kpe on the other hand was built from ground up for ln2.
Edited by johnd0e - 6/22/16 at 3:10am
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